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Ask HN: How much info should founders share with early stage employees?

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Re: Ask HN: How much info should founders share with early stage employees?

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At Stream with our team of 140 I like to share runway, burn, cash balance, revenue, burn multiple and CAC payback. Historically Stream has grown rapidly and the equity grants have been very significant compared to the base salaries. (who knows what the future brings, but hopefully that trend continues). So a significant part of our team's compensation is equity, I think it's only fair to be transparent about those to…

Why didn’t your friend exercise his options?

Re: Ask HN: How much info should founders share with early stage employees?

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I've been in both camp, founder and employee in a startup. From my experience, sharing is mostly bad. Very often, you'll be tempted to share good news too early, and very often it won't materialize (startup life is a roller coaster) This alone will erode the morale of your team. But there is an other factor, many humans, when presented with data and problems, tend to at least think about solutions, and they dislike b…

You didn’t finish your post - if information is power, how much should be shared?

It depends, power can be shared but you can't easily take it back, and contrary to many things power is zero sum.

So, this is an important choice.

Only share what is needed for the task. But of course you can talk about your vision for the company, your ethics, long term goals etc.

Re: Ask HN: How much info should founders share with early stage employees?

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I disagree. Startup employees care about making a good product, too. That's the rule when you join a startup: you won't have the highest salary, and maybe your startup bankrupts in 6 months, but you get to have more impact. If you don't want the risk and don't want to care, go in an established company. But that all means that you should be transparent with startup employees, because many decisions depend on that at…

Sure, employees should care about making a good product, and should be provided all relevant info they need for that. They however do not need to know everything about how the business is run. Their focus should be on making the product.

I would argue that it is often relevant for the technical employees to have an idea about how business is going: who wants the product, how they (intend to) use it, and also who discussed a partnership and eventually did not go with the product.

As you said, not everyone can be into business. Which also means that not everyone can be technical. Who says that the business people are good at translating requirements from potential clients to technical employees? Isn't it likely that the technical people know more about what is technically possible?

If you share too much with your employees, what's the worse case? They leave with that data? So what? If the whole value of the startup is that the founder knows a bunch of business numbers, anyway it doesn't sound very promising.

However, if you don't share enough, maybe you miss very good solutions that they would come up with if they had access to all the data. Worse: if your interpretation of what the customers want and what is technically possible is slightly wrong, maybe you will send your whole startup in the wrong direction. All that just because you thought you knew what your technical people needed to make a good product.

Re: Ask HN: How much info should founders share with early stage employees?

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Here's a non-conspiratorial reason: many engineers are not used to the uncertainty involved in day to day business negotiations and sales, and allow themselves to be stressed out what they see how the sausage is made. The reality is that lots of deals fall through, and that is normal . But if someone hasn't had a front row seat to that, they start wondering "are we failing?", "am I not doing a good enough job?", "is…

If you work for a company so small that it's possible to have that transparency, the assumption that your job is safe should never have entered your mind. Startups that small are always a risk. Anyone joining a company like that must know that going in. Making sure people are aware of that risk is part of full transparency.

This is some very SV-centric view. That kind of transparency is possible with up to ~50 employees and plenty of businesses in the 10-50 person range are stable enough you can assume your job is safe. Not everywhere is searching for PMF-to-hyperscale.

Re: Ask HN: How much info should founders share with early stage employees?

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Being one of 7 employees, I would expect a high level of transparency. That doesn't mean you should force it down their throats, but I would want access to as much info as possible given the risks of working for a company that early-stage.

Re: Ask HN: How much info should founders share with early stage employees?

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Share it all. Complete transparency. Show them the cash flow. At your small size you will benefit from the additional trust and alignment this will bring. You may find yourself delighted in finding that many of your team can see and solve problems that you may have missed. You can be super secretive to combat the BigCo mentality like Apple when you have the first class problem of being a BigCo.

On the flip side the more you share the more people will opine on your decisions and cause you to second guess yourself. So sometimes more is less. As a founder you will make dozens of decisions every day... Many of them are coin flips which don't need too many cooks involved - especially when your team should be focused on building the product towards the vision - and not so much on the bank account.

Re: Ask HN: How much info should founders share with early stage employees?

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If you work for a company so small that it's possible to have that transparency, the assumption that your job is safe should never have entered your mind. Startups that small are always a risk. Anyone joining a company like that must know that going in. Making sure people are aware of that risk is part of full transparency.

This is some very SV-centric view. That kind of transparency is possible with up to ~50 employees and plenty of businesses in the 10-50 person range are stable enough you can assume your job is safe. Not everywhere is searching for PMF-to-hyperscale.

My first real job was at a company in Pennsylvania with a few dozen employees. They laid off half their staff and implemented mandatory overtime. Many of my college friends that never left the area lost their jobs during the pandemic working for exactly the kinds of companies you describe. Every five to ten years of my adulthood has been marked with economic downturn that overwhelmingly shutter small businesses. What kind of stability is that?

Re: Ask HN: How much info should founders share with early stage employees?

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I was employee #1 at a startup, the founder was actually a friend (not a close friend but a friend nonetheless) and was pretty transparent. That said over time I uncovered a few half-truths and one thing that was somewhat hidden from me. I started looking immediately and left within 6 months of joining.

Re: Ask HN: How much info should founders share with early stage employees?

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This is what I have seen at Amazon.

Doesn't Amazon do blackout periods for most grunt-level employees? Usually only executive-level and higher employees have access to information considered material to the business trajectory at large. Emphasis on usually ; all that boring bigcorp training covers the ins and outs.

Yep, they only allow trading during specific times.
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