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Ask HN: Is there a developer laptop that does not suck and is not a Mac in 2022?

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Re: Ask HN: Is there a developer laptop that does not suck and is not a Mac in 2022?

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post #82

Currently using a T490s (win-based on WSL, work machine) and a T480s (Fedora, upgraded to 24gb ram) for personal projects and they're both fine machines. The T480s runs a bit cooler after a repaste than the T490s but I'd say they can handle fine whatever I throw at them.

Sure, but both are older models and have (T480s) roughly half the performance of M1 base model. For some things (in Photoshop/Lr) the difference is even greater.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a developer laptop that does not suck and is not a Mac in 2022?

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My company gives us a Dell Precision 5560 (big-co equivalent to Dell XPS, same chassis and everything), and it's pretty good. And we have next-day on-site support from Dell, but I don't think we've ever used it these last few years.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a developer laptop that does not suck and is not a Mac in 2022?

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post #109
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Were you never curious about what the little [-] did? Where's your sense of adventure! I rib you, but at the same time I understand and your idea has merit.

Not the person you're asking, but I thought the [-] acted as a downvote button and hid the offending content at the same time. If it isn't, why do some controversial comments get into a lighter font?

You unlock the ability to downvote posts and comments at 500 karma points I believe

Re: Ask HN: Is there a developer laptop that does not suck and is not a Mac in 2022?

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post #109
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Were you never curious about what the little [-] did? Where's your sense of adventure! I rib you, but at the same time I understand and your idea has merit.

Not the person you're asking, but I thought the [-] acted as a downvote button and hid the offending content at the same time. If it isn't, why do some controversial comments get into a lighter font?

Once you get a certain level of karma you get the ability to downvote comments - lighter font means people downvoted it

Re: Ask HN: Is there a developer laptop that does not suck and is not a Mac in 2022?

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Apple’s customer support is truly terrible in countries where they don’t have an official presence.

My wireless Magic Keyboard with Numpad and Touch ID just stopped working one day. I took it to the Apple Premium Reseller store where it was purchased for service, and it took them FOUR AND A HALF MONTHS to replace it.

I should have walked out of that store with a new one in my hands, because it’s impossible to repair. I seriously wonder what took them four and a half months to realize that.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a developer laptop that does not suck and is not a Mac in 2022?

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If you can get a decent display in your region (because they usually nickel and dime European users and do unfathomable part sourcing), Lenovo are usually a good choice.

I am a Portuguese Mac user and we still don’t have an official Apple Store in my country (although there are a few third-party certified support centres) and have been using mostly Surface laptops at work, but with the Apple Silicon switch I bought a mid-range Lenovo Ryzen laptop solely for running and building x86 Linux packages, and I am pretty happy with it even though it is plasticky and hardly as polished.

I suspect the high end ones might be suitable, although to be fair I had an X1 Carbon a few years back and loathed it - it was the reason I opted for Surface laptops to run Windows.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a developer laptop that does not suck and is not a Mac in 2022?

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the problems with it in practice? I'd have ordered one if it was shipping to my country

It’s a non-stop parade of weirdness. Fixes from recent BIOS release notes include things like “Fix battery not charging when system is off.” https://knowledgebase.frame.work/en_us/framework-laptop-bios ... Again, part of me is glad I supported them. I just wish I wasn’t reminded of it several times a week when I’m dealing with one random issue or another with it. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I regret it…

That's a shame. Maybe you could still sell it (pass on the principles to someone with no startup to run) and get a better laptop. Thanks for the elaboration.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a developer laptop that does not suck and is not a Mac in 2022?

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post #8

Depends on what you are working on, but don’t dismiss buying a cheap chromebook with a decent screen and using a cloud instance. A lot of IDE plugins make it an even better experience. Just make sure you are near the data centre and it’ll be better then you think.

Imagine paying a rental on your development environment.

You can always run development environment in a local VM, although that would be rather slow (I assume that if somebody is going remote development way then they would buy cheaper notebook and use savings to pay for the cloud instance).

It's not for everyone, but you are paying for your development environment either way (upfront by buying powerful notebook, or as-you-go by renting cloud instance). Seems fine as long as it is conscious choice.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a developer laptop that does not suck and is not a Mac in 2022?

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I'm a happy owner of a Dell Precision 5520 that is already 5 years old. It shipped with a Ubuntu LTS by default and I took a 3-year next day repair warranty that I used once for a swollen battery. I cannot express how happy I was to have my laptop repaired in less than an hour in my kitchen by a Dell certified technician. Given how dependent I am on my computer for work, if I had to send it I would have lost at least a week of productivity. Instead, it was just a minor inconvenience. Sh*t happens, but I would pay for this peace of mind every time.

For my next laptop, I'm waiting for Framework to open shipping to Switzerland. It won't come this kind of warranty but its full repairability will make up for it.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a developer laptop that does not suck and is not a Mac in 2022?

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post #94
post #70

I absolutely love my Framework laptop for dev. I feel the software support is also quite good, at least for Fedora which is explicitly supported. I got the DIY edition and put everything together, including installing Fedora, in under 1 hour. And I'm a really slow guy, haven't build a computer in 10 years - its too easy with framework. This laptop is really build to be repairable and modular and it does not suck at a…

Since you know the product (frame.work) well: how does one get the specifications page?! Last time I checked, they (notebookcheck.net) said it used a glossy display instead of matte; I cannot find a specifications table in the frame.work website and the closest thing I got is in the "Marketplace Parts" section, e.g. at https://frame.work/products/display-kit - where the non-trivial, simply critical detail of glossy v…

It’s one of the glossiest screens around.
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