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Re: Oracle started as a CIA project (2014)

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Post by trasz » Sun, Aug 28, 2022, 11:10 AM UTC

UIUC_06 wrote: post #89

trasz wrote: post #87

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You can really claim with a straight face that invading Afghanistan and killing two hundred thousand random people was to help? Because, well, that’s exactly what Rashists say about invading Ukraine. Once again: same mentality.

#whataboutism "invading Afghanistan and killing two hundred thousand random people" there's that word "random" again. You disqualify yourself from any serious discussions when you keep using that. You're throwing around crazy numbers like someone on The View.

>there's that word "random" again.

So you are saying all those droned kids were combatants, not random victims?

>You're throwing around crazy numbers like someone on The View.

Those are official statistics, you’ll find them quoted on Wikipedia. Let me guess: they look weird to you, because your media only reports loses on the invading side.

Re: Oracle started as a CIA project (2014)

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Post by trasz » Sun, Aug 28, 2022, 11:11 AM UTC

BeMoreSpecific wrote: post #90

trasz wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can really claim with a straight face that invading Afghanistan and killing two hundred thousand random people was to help? Because, well, that’s exactly what Rashists say about invading Ukraine. Once again: same mentality.

What Russians/Putin said doesn't really matter to me, there are no (significant amount of) fascists in Ukraine and no persecution of Russians was happening. Meanwhile, Taliban is very much real and their crimes against humanity are real too.

Taliban was just an excuse, some as “Ukrainian Nazis” are to Rashists. If US really wanted to hunt terrorists, they would invade Saudi Arabia instead.

Also - you really believe those two hundred thousand people killed, as “US aid to Afghanistan”, were Taliban?

Re: Oracle started as a CIA project (2014)

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Post by trasz » Sun, Aug 28, 2022, 11:14 AM UTC

UIUC_06 wrote: post #88

trasz wrote: post #84

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No, they are largely imprisoned for literally nothing, or because of irrelevant formalities: https://twitter.com/equalityalec/status/1562849803297366017 . Or https://twitter.com/equalityalec/status/1556292658615750656 . Or sometimes just executed: https://twitter.com/phil_lewis_/status/1562837493648871430 . It does show a bias that at this point should be obvious even to you: you are conditioned to believe US prison…

What garbage. "Obvious even to you" should be that poor people commit more crimes against other people and against property, the very thing that police are looking for. That's why more of them are locked up. Just for due diligence, I looked at your "references": 1) the first two are from the same person, and are unattributed. So I kind of doubt they're even true. But let's pretend they are: "irrelevant formality" --…

There are stats there, anyone who’s not indoctrinated can see them. One point:

>as for the "felonious" people in China: what did the Uyghurs do to deserve it?

Terrorism. The difference between Uighurs and the victims of American invasion on Middle East is that Chinese aren’t mass executing them from safe distance like Americans do.

Re: Oracle started as a CIA project (2014)

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Post by UIUC_06 » Sun, Aug 28, 2022, 4:45 PM UTC

trasz wrote: post #93

UIUC_06 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What garbage. "Obvious even to you" should be that poor people commit more crimes against other people and against property, the very thing that police are looking for. That's why more of them are locked up. Just for due diligence, I looked at your "references": 1) the first two are from the same person, and are unattributed. So I kind of doubt they're even true. But let's pretend they are: "irrelevant formality" --…

There are stats there, anyone who’s not indoctrinated can see them. One point: >as for the "felonious" people in China: what did the Uyghurs do to deserve it? Terrorism. The difference between Uighurs and the victims of American invasion on Middle East is that Chinese aren’t mass executing them from safe distance like Americans do.

I'm done arguing. Go ahead and have the last word if that's important to you.