I like Odin
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#2> As someone who is interested in systems programming, and has experience working with Go
I wonder how Go got it's reputation as a systems language. Imo, it occupies the same abstraction level as Java or C#.
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#3It is not hard to design a language which is a "better C than C" because C has obvious warts, the article mentions a few.
But the warts just aren't big enough to justify switching to a different language. That's why no "better C than C" has ever become really popular.
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#4i had to stop reading cause of all the ads ! Bloody hell !
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#5Odin Homepage: https://odin-lang.org/ (I was curious)
I can't see this being generally successful unless it can interoperate with existing C code without much effort. Update: It appears it can: https://odin-lang.org/docs/overview/#foreign-system
It apparently targets LLVM.
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#6> As someone who is interested in systems programming, and has experience working with Go I wonder how Go got it's reputation as a systems language. Imo, it occupies the same abstraction level as Java or C#.
Maybe Go compiling to native binary with excellent performance and being somewhat "simple" (say, compared to Java 8 streams conveniences etc), has given rise to that impression. Though I wasn't under that impression myself (I think Go having a GC compared to usually more manual memory management by systems languages is a pretty significant difference).
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#7> As someone who is interested in systems programming, and has experience working with Go I wonder how Go got it's reputation as a systems language. Imo, it occupies the same abstraction level as Java or C#.
AFAIK Go was and is primarily used to write back-end server software and this is commonly called "systems programming" (as opposed to application programming) too.
It is kinda confusing that the term is used for that and for low-level embedded/firmware/kernel programming, despite both areas having little in common with each other.
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#8i had to stop reading cause of all the ads ! Bloody hell !
Just use uBO like everyone else, there's not a single ad on that page visible for me.
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#9> As someone who is interested in systems programming, and has experience working with Go I wonder how Go got it's reputation as a systems language. Imo, it occupies the same abstraction level as Java or C#.
I always interpreted go "system" as networked async systems and not electronic chip systems.
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#10> As someone who is interested in systems programming, and has experience working with Go I wonder how Go got it's reputation as a systems language. Imo, it occupies the same abstraction level as Java or C#.
When Go was first announced ~2009, Rob Pike explicitly framed it as a systems language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKnDgT73v8s
I would not say it's the same as Java or C#. The crucial difference is that it compiles to a native executable binary file, not something that needs a virtual machine.