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We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know

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Re: We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know

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Why is there even such a gigantic universe? Like what is the purpose of it - why was there a Big Bang? If I really think hard about these questions it makes me uncomfortable and anxious.

The universe is as big as it is because of the word size used by the machine which runs the simulation. Most of it seems to be 'wasted space' but that is just a consequence of the large word size needed to have an accurate enough simulation.

Re: We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know

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>religious babble Why is religion held in such contempt when there is so much science that is just as much "babble", but held in high regard?

I think the ratio of babble to sound reasoning is much better in science than in religion. That being said, there is also a lot of science babble and we should call it out and try to keep it at a as low amount as possible.

The core tenets of science are pretty sound. Religions are based on a lot of completely made up stuff. They are not 100% bad of course. But we seriously can do much much better than that.

I think there is a reason why the concept of religions evolved. They might have been an important tool in early societies. But they are very very old tools and I don't think we need them anymore. They come with too many dangerous problems.

Re: We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know

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>religious babble Why is religion held in such contempt when there is so much science that is just as much "babble", but held in high regard?

Because they're following the religion of scientism.

Re: We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know

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>religious babble Why is religion held in such contempt when there is so much science that is just as much "babble", but held in high regard?

I think the ratio of babble to sound reasoning is much better in science than in religion. That being said, there is also a lot of science babble and we should call it out and try to keep it at a as low amount as possible. The core tenets of science are pretty sound. Religions are based on a lot of completely made up stuff. They are not 100% bad of course. But we seriously can do much much better than that. I think t…

> Religions are based on a lot of completely made up stuff

Did you survey all religions to make such claim? And it's not like you don't need axiomatic bases that need to be accepted as is to base science on. There's a lot of "I think" and assumptions in your post that are not backed up by evidence, and some even contrary to reality.

This is a good starting point to expand your horizon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If3cNUixEBM

Re: We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know

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post #162

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>religious babble Why is religion held in such contempt when there is so much science that is just as much "babble", but held in high regard?

I think the ratio of babble to sound reasoning is much better in science than in religion. That being said, there is also a lot of science babble and we should call it out and try to keep it at a as low amount as possible. The core tenets of science are pretty sound. Religions are based on a lot of completely made up stuff. They are not 100% bad of course. But we seriously can do much much better than that. I think t…

Depends on the religion. Catholicism has many problems, but you won't get far accusing it of being insufficiently methodical.

Re: We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know

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Here's how I understood it: "The Gods themselves are part of creation. Even if there were a Creator, he may not know for certain whether it was indeed him who created"

But that doesn't get us any further than "We don't know yet." It doesn't prove or disprove anything. By the same line of reasoning one could say there is no time at all and all our memory of the past is an illusion generated by a simulation. The linked video talks about this: there are an infinite amount of theories that one can come up with to explain the current state and it might not be possible with our current u…

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Re: We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know

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Why is there even such a gigantic universe? Like what is the purpose of it - why was there a Big Bang? If I really think hard about these questions it makes me uncomfortable and anxious.

In a gigantic universe, it’s statistically more likely that something interesting like you will happen in it.

Re: We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know

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Therein lies the True eternal distinction between Reason and Faith. Reason is that which can be known and where it ceases becomes Faith. They are separate parallel structures, to mistake one for the other is folly. We know that everything we can see originated as a single point of one uniformly distributed substance. We know that everything we can see will return into one uniformly distributed substance (Heat and red…

“Faith and reason are like two wings on which the human spirit rises to the contemplation of truth…”

https://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/encyclicals/d...

Re: We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know

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What if it never began and has simply always existed? That is the likely scenario, as the moment you think about it beginning, you again face beginning from what? What was that called before the universe other than the universe?

The universe provably did not always exist.

Re: We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know

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>religious babble Why is religion held in such contempt when there is so much science that is just as much "babble", but held in high regard?

Because they're following the religion of scientism.

Science is not a religion. If scientism means thinking that science is the best tool we have right now to explain reality then I guess yea I'm pro science. But it's very far from a religion.

BTW science does not claim to know it all or even be able to know it all. In fact it is an important part of science to find the limits of science.

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