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Day ahead electricity prices for EU

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All energy problem reduce to problems of energy transportation. We have a huge fusion reactor in the sky. The challenge is capture and transit. The problem is not incidental; it's fundamental.

A huge fusion reactor in the sky that isn't available in the evening or when it's cloudy.

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Re: Day ahead electricity prices for EU

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Poland. As an EU citizen working online, it was as easy as buying a plane ticket, renting an AirBNB, registering a company, and waiting over a year until I got connected to the healthcare / social security system and such.

Wow that is really neat. Is there ever a problem with everyone wanting to move to all the good places haha? I wonder if they will get really expensive to live in like California and New York. Not that I’m saying CA and NY are the “good” places of USA but many perceive it that way.

The house price inflation has been staggering across Sweden, but not so much in the rural north where I live. I don't think many people will ever want to move here, but for those with more mainstream idea of what a "good place" is, yeah, it's getting ever harder.

Re: Day ahead electricity prices for EU

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Remember that, while prices have soared, electricity generation has not become more expensive. The "electricity crisis" is a crisis for European consumers but a massive windfall for producers. This is a market failure - not an electricity failure.

It's not a market failure. Markets are not supposed to keep a steady profit margin regardless of demand.

Production cannot be scaled up and down infinitely and immediately.

The price is a market signal.

The fact that production cannot be immediately scaled to serve the customer demand and bring prices (and therefore profits) back down to a "normal" level is not a market failure either; it's simply a physical reality.

Re: Day ahead electricity prices for EU

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I’m not sure what you are trying to say. The reasons for the energy prices have nothing to do with any European bureaucracy. If anything more investments into green energy would have put us into a better position.

The European bureaucracy is what dismantled all the old cheap energy production and forced massive investment and massive subsidies in renewable energy that can't actually cope with the real load.

The drivers of high prices are broken nuclear power plants, high gas prices due to a war and record draughts causing issues for hydro. None of these are caused by European bureaucracy.

Re: Day ahead electricity prices for EU

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Remember that, while prices have soared, electricity generation has not become more expensive. The "electricity crisis" is a crisis for European consumers but a massive windfall for producers. This is a market failure - not an electricity failure.

Can anybody explain why that is? Why a country that generates 99+% of its own electricity like UK is seeing price increases? Everybody blames the war, but AFAIK UK imports 1% of its gas from Russia, and its electricity is generated locally, so why are prices increasing? I would expect grain and wheat to increase 500%, not power.

What makes gas different from wheat? US is a huge exporter of wheat, that doesn’t mean us farmers/traders don’t have their eye on what Ukrainian shortfalls imply for global balances?

Same thing for gas, uk is competing with their neighbors for a resource that just got a whole lot more scarce (locally), causing prices to rise

Re: Day ahead electricity prices for EU

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This is nothing. If you want to panic, check the futures markets for the next 2 quarters, especially France. So I think short term we are pretty screwed. But I think if you can produce electricity at 1/10 or even 1/20 of the price, wouldn't you be adding new capacity now? The only fast option are renewables, so my wild guess is that there will be so much new capacity added in the next years, the bottleneck will not b…

Eye watering French power prices:

* Baseload from nov22 to feb23 above 2000€/MWh

* Peak Load nov22 to dec22 at 3000€/MWh

* Peak Load Q1/23 at 2970€/MWh

But the prices for other nations also went up steeply.

[1] https://www.eex.com/en/market-data/power/futures#%7B%22snipp...

Re: Day ahead electricity prices for EU

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At $0.40/kWh Germany is now paying the same or slightly less than a PG&E TOU customer. I didn’t realize their electricity was so much cheaper than ours to start with.

California is near the same cost as hawaii. The rates are absurd. With the rate payer bailing out their past dividends and lack of investment.

Re: Day ahead electricity prices for EU

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Are there any plans to build an infrastructure to connect both networks? It seems like a great idea in the current situation

Already exists. The main limitation is the number of cables and GW capacity.Also ramping up cable production has a bit of latency and installing them even more. And it's capital intensive and only makes sense when electricity prices are high. They are right now but that's not a permanent situation.

And the problem with building massive interconnects that are rarely used is that it’s not economical to do so. They need to be encouraged by outside means.
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