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Ask HN: How can I come to peace with the years I wasted on pointless things?

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Re: Ask HN: How can I come to peace with the years I wasted on pointless things?

#151
Maybe regret (about the past) and worry (about the future) are similar because they serve to deflect one’s attention from the here and now.

Trust that your past self chose as best they could then, and have compassion for that past self. Those experiences gave you skills and perspective you can use now.

I have found that big changes can be good, but never underestimate the power of marginal changes too. Walk instead of drive, go out a different exit, ask someone to lunch, try the random thing on menu, stay up later or get up earlier, try the book on the Librarian’s Choice table.

Re: Ask HN: How can I come to peace with the years I wasted on pointless things?

#152
When I was your age, I also worried along the same lines. As you get older though you realize it doesn't really matter.

You are still very young, no matter how much you may think otherwise. There is still an incredible amount of time ahead of you which can be put to any use you so desire.

Just spend the time you have wisely, don't worry about it when you do not, and above all else have fun. All of us only get one go on this ride.

Re: Ask HN: How can I come to peace with the years I wasted on pointless things?

#153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Everything you do is ultimately pointless > the most meaningful thing we can do is through social interactions Clearly you can see the contrast here. I agree that people are far more important than anything else. I am also among the majority of worldviews on earth who do not consider 'everything is pointless'.

I like the Tibetan take on this: We’re all going to die. Every day we live a little and die a little. We should aspire to live joyfully doing whatever is meaningful to us. And let things die throughout our lives. Holding on to possessions, people and ideas too tightly gets in the way of living. Living joyfully can mean anything for you. One thing I like is struggling at hard programming problems. The struggle (and ev…

> We’re all going to die. Every day we live a little and die a little Beautiful perspective there. Thanks for writing this.

Re: Ask HN: How can I come to peace with the years I wasted on pointless things?

#154

Look how many comments here are top level with no replies! I don't think I have ever seen anything quite like it in many years of HN-ing. What does it mean? I suppose people are immediately identifying with OP and posting their own personal reflections. There's a lot of agreement among the posts, and many are expressly or implicitly Stoic.

It's very relatable for many to feel that one's time was wasted online, but wanting to change, especially for people who find forums like Hacker News. The interesting thing is that the solutions to changing one's situation can also be found online (or preferably, a starting point of the solution that leads to real-life resources).

It's a double-edged sword in that sense: on the one hand, one can unintentionally spend a lot of time online, but on the other, browsing has given me the ideas and encouraged me to contact people in real life, which led to real positive career changes.

I think a lot of people can relate to OP's situation, and really wish them to succeed. If they can think critically about a lot of these comments, and selectively consider the ones that make sense, it can be a great starting point to seek real-life resources that will make a massive difference over time.

Re: Ask HN: How can I come to peace with the years I wasted on pointless things?

#155
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't mean to be depressing, but what is the point of life? Like an ultimate goal or something that you must achieve? It doesn't seem to be a one, except for the ones that we set for ourselves, which is usually trying to live as better as possible for as long as you can. And this seems fine to me, thinking too much about this can get depressing unless you can be comfortable with the fact that whatever we do in life…

Point of life: you didn’t choose to be here but since you are, make something out of it. What is the pleasure or the meaning of just wasting it away?

The point is to enjoy every day, instead of trying to do things others consider meaningful. If you like playing games all day, do that.

Whom are you living for?

Re: Ask HN: How can I come to peace with the years I wasted on pointless things?

#156
My unprofessional assessment: you're looking at a quarter-life crisis and reevaluating your view of the world. Your perspective is shifting and now your questioning the path forward and looking at the path behind.

I did this around the same age. I was the complete opposite of you. I was knee deep on computing like Carmack and such, not saying I was a savant or anything, but I was obsessed, it was mucuh of my childhood. Spent most my days and evenings focusing on computers, tech, buulding things, early web development, design, software engineering, "hacking", everything... I was all over the place and said this was it I do this and I'll be happy. Not only do I enjoy it, I have a plan that this will lift me out of poverty and I'll worry about dating and being happy after.

At some point in my early 20s I began questioning if I was missing out on-life. I had very few intimate relationships at that point, neglected time with my friendships, had liited social life.. I was so focused on tech and ultimately being "successful." Then I started thinking about all the things I was missing out on, playing video games, intimate relationships, partying and going out with friends...

What would I value long term? Was the tech that important to me? What about all the messy human things like relationships, having a partner, family, kids... are those important to me and am I going in the right direction.

For me the answer was I felt I made a mistake with too much focus and I still agree with that decision. I missed out on some (not all) teen and young adult experiences I now somewhat regret but to some degree eventually experienced later in life. I shifted time away from chasing the latest tech and trying to make a fortune from some business idea to focusing on myself: started exercising, sleeping more, eating healthy, actively dating and improving my personality, fostering and growing friendships even if it sometimes meant sacrificing time doing things I didn't quite want to do. I got happier, a lot happier, and realized my happiness was far more important to me than whatever contrived external measures of success society and others may have originally helped set in my mind.

Ultimately all that focus wasn't lost, I had and still have a leg-up in some domains of computing due to the years of, albeit unprofessional and childhood, training but not too far off from professional levels of training and exploration. That ultimately set me up for great positions many others can't compete in, high income, and financial stability that I have as a base for all the other things in life I enjoy to sit atop of. But none of that matters to me anymore beyond its ability to provide stability for the rest of things in life like my partner, family, friends, and things that make me happy.

So, all that to say, think about what you really want in life. The good news is you're still very young and still have plenty of time to course correct if you find you're off. But sit down, think about it, find what makes you happy, and don't let others shift your vision unless they have good feedback that your approach won't get you to your goals. Maybe what you're doing does make you happy and others are painting a picture of what you should do but that isn't going to get you to what you want in life and you're questioning that, or maybe you do want to be more career focused and need that shift in time.

I've adopted a rather epicurean take on life since that point and I haven't regretted it (so long as my enjoyment isn't at the cost of others' enjoyment--I practice restraint). It's all up to you how you want to shape your life but I say think about what you want and always be open to reevaluate your choices and goals but don't dwell on it too much. Enjoy life, you only live once (at least in my framing of reality) as cliche as it is.

Re: Ask HN: How can I come to peace with the years I wasted on pointless things?

#157
You definitely did screw up, but imagine how much bigger your screwup will be if you don’t do anything about it now.

33 should look a lot better for you, focus on that. You’ve identified the thing you wish you had done, and you have the time to correct the regret.

On the other hand if you’re still not motivated, then at least you have your answer; you’re not capable of more, and should find ways being content as you are.

WoW is a fun and social game; if that’s all you’re going to do with your life, at least you’ll find some moments pleasurable.

Really, I’m not knocking the idea of throwing your life away to video games, but recognize that’s what it is.

Re: Ask HN: How can I come to peace with the years I wasted on pointless things?

#158
Here's a perspective to consider: the regret is a safety mechanism to keep you from doing, in the present, what you aspire to do.

If you make good use of the present, your regret for the past will fade, you'll have less time to indulge in it and no reward for doing so.

Re: Ask HN: How can I come to peace with the years I wasted on pointless things?

#159

The thing to realize here is that these "legendary developers" grew up in a time where the MOST addicting thing to do was write programs on a screen or read books. There was LITERALLY nothing more exciting to do. No games, no good tv/phones, and no social media. And my theory was (essentially) confirmed when John Carmack tweeted[0] about how he avoids distractions in the present day. So it's safe to assume he would'v…

> The thing to realize here is that these "legendary developers" grew up in a time where the MOST addicting thing to do was write programs on a screen or read books. There was LITERALLY nothing more exciting to do.

I think its also critical to realize that this is all about frame of mind. Yes, to a select few, there was nothing more exciting to do. To most others at that time, sports or the opposite gender would've been far more exciting. Fortunately, we have at least some control over what we find exciting.

Re: Ask HN: How can I come to peace with the years I wasted on pointless things?

#160
There are lots of great comments here. I would also add, what would have been the point of learning computer science earlier in life? You could have started a career earlier? That’s just a different way to squander you childhood and college years.

To quote one the oldest but truest cliches: youth is wasted on the young. There’s just no way around it. It’s ok to move on.

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