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EBay acquires Hunch for $80m

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Re: EBay acquires Hunch for $80m

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> What is ebay thinking? Impressive back-end tech (the recommendation engine) that can now process millions and millions of items on eBay to help increase sales (something like a quarter of Amazon's sales come from recommendations).

80 million dollars is a lot to pay for a recommendation engine. Netflix had their own and paid a million dollars as prize payout for an absolutely state of the art system. If it really was just a tech acquisition they massively overpaid.

See my above reply to suking--$80m is kind of a bargain.

Re: EBay acquires Hunch for $80m

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did anyone actually use Hunch seriously?

No freaking kidding - only thing I saw the founder do was interview people on TC. Never heard anyone mention hunch outside of those interviews. What is ebay thinking?

I frequent HN, Reddit, Twitter, etc. and have heard the name Hunch once or twice, but have no idea what they do and don't know anyone who uses it.

There's a different kind of bubble in the valley, it's a contained ecosystem that people get caught up in. Similar to the social bubble surrounding a college or church. People inside the bubble often cannot see the forest from the trees.

In the bubble it's easy to get to know all the trees, but from the outside it's just a forest and few trees are easily recognized or stand out from the others at all.

Re: EBay acquires Hunch for $80m

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Wow, this is like a knight in a white horse for Hunch.. I seriously doubt they were making any profit... This sounds like a talent acquisition. I mean this is ridiculous... but it goes to show you.. you gotta show up for the game (the startup game, I mean) to win it... $80 m for a site that doesn't even get 1 million uniques (per Compete) a month is a STEAL. I mean.. seriously, everyone who has a CS background should…

I dunno, their recommendation engine was scary good -- the technology Ebay's acquiring isn't anything to sniff at. They reportedly have a defensive portfolio of pending patents: http://www.formspring.me/hunch/q/169651283274266480 Ebay's been on a spending spree this past year and I'd say this is one of the better deals they've made, depending on how long they've locked in Hunch's team.

I wonder if Google was in on the action for Hunch.

Re: EBay acquires Hunch for $80m

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Don't forget that Hunch's system is real-time (this is very hard), and is more than just scalable collaborative filtering for items of the same kind. They can ingest a Twitter or Facebook profile, infer your "taste profile", and start recommending things instantly; "things" meaning books, films, music, events, places etc etc.

I don't believe real time is very hard. Something that ebay can' already do. And if they can't already do it, how will hunch come in and solve it. It would probably require major changes to db's etc if that is why ebay can't already do it.

> I don't believe real time is very hard.

At scale it is. More here:

http://www.quora.com/Hunch/Is-Hunch-actually-doing-anything-... (this one got a vote from one of the founders)

http://hassy.posterous.com/my-favorite-startups-hunch

Re: EBay acquires Hunch for $80m

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Something about Hunch's trajectory is utterly predictable and ever-so-slightly depressing. I suppose building to sell is a perfectly valid business model -- if you succeed -- but it makes me feel a little dirty. And if nobody buys you, you're well and truly f#%@$ed. Although who am I to argue with $80 million.

And if nobody buys you, you're well and truly f#%@$ed.

Really? If you don't have a 'building to sell' roadmap in the first place, why be depressed? If you're building a long-term, stable company with real value and profits, you're not for sale in the first place.

Re: EBay acquires Hunch for $80m

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80 million dollars is a lot to pay for a recommendation engine. Netflix had their own and paid a million dollars as prize payout for an absolutely state of the art system. If it really was just a tech acquisition they massively overpaid.

Don't forget that Hunch's system is real-time (this is very hard), and is more than just scalable collaborative filtering for items of the same kind. They can ingest a Twitter or Facebook profile, infer your "taste profile", and start recommending things instantly; "things" meaning books, films, music, events, places etc etc.

How does that vary much from what Etsy did with their gift recommendations application based on your/friend's facebook profile

Re: EBay acquires Hunch for $80m

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Whatever Hunch is really good at, we haven't seen it yet. I assume Ebay has, and that it has everything to do with crunching customer browsing & purchase behavior to offer them products they're most likely to purchase.

Re: EBay acquires Hunch for $80m

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> everyone who has a CS background should just start something on the side if a deal like this is possible Chris Dixon is a veteran investor and entrepreneur, with enormous visibility in the tech world. Contacts with potential acquirers are a non-issue for him. A poor CS fellow could have created a version of Hunch that was 100x better and they still would have 1,000x less of an exit opportunity as compared to any st…

Agreed, this is completely absurd. Say what you will about Chris Dixon (zomg he doesn't code, wtf!!!!!111), but the engineering team at Hunch is second-to-none. Grandparent makes it sound like Dixon pulled this off in his spare time. He assembled a team of A-level engineers, then secured millions in funding so they could develop an awesome recommendation engine with almost no clear revenue stream. I challenge anyone…

I think we need to move away from all the nonsense of "A-level engineers" or superstar developers and so and so and so.

Carl Henderson of Flickr fame looked like an A-level engineer back then (especially with his O'reilly book) yet some of the Flickr engineers baffled when they saw the Flickr codebase.

Sometime it's all smoke and marketing hype.

Re: EBay acquires Hunch for $80m

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I've learned that in one year, one's goals can change dramatically.

It's also one thing to say something. But the situation changes when a ton of money is actually thrown right in front of you.

If the number is right, $80m is not a ton of money for people who have already had big exits and took $20m in VC to start this company.
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