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Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

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Re: Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

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I’m kind of shocked this isn’t a bigger story. - Right before a presidential election a major story breaks about a Presidential candidate - FBI jumps in to say “it’s Russian disinformation” - Story suppressed across the media including online as “disinformation” - After the election story turns out to be 100% true

It is a major story, but not in US. Why do you think states lost respect and credibility worldwide?

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If your ISP decided to only transmit the string “jemmyw” 10% of the time, and blackhole the other 90% of jemmyw-containing packets, we would call that censorship. Facebook altered an algorithm to transmit a story to fewer people than it otherwise would have. It’s censorship.

If you try to say something to a 3rd person standing next to us and I shout you down, that is censorship. If I refuse to tell a 3rd person (not present) something you tell me, that is not censorship. I have no obligation to repeat your nonsense.

If you write a book and I publish it and then due to public outcry, I stop publishing it. That is censorship.

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There's no right answer to: - what you should censor - whether you should censor when running a social media (more like an ad-platform but irrelevant to the point I'm making) service to this scale serving people from every demographic. Anything you do is wrong. If you don't censor, there's misinformation on a platform you control and you will be responsible for further conspiracies and actions/campaigns stemming from…

My opinion is that a “social media platform” should stop trying to serve people from every demographic. I believe that:

* Facebook was much better when it was an exclusive community of college students

* Reddit was much better when it was a small, self-manageable community of nerds

* Hacker News is much better than either of those two because it’s still a small community with a specific scope and good moderation

Re: Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

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post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you try to say something to a 3rd person standing next to us and I shout you down, that is censorship. If I refuse to tell a 3rd person (not present) something you tell me, that is not censorship. I have no obligation to repeat your nonsense.

If you write a book and I publish it and then due to public outcry, I stop publishing it. That is censorship.

No, it's not. I'm under no obligation to help you distribute your ideas, and I can change my mind whenever I please.

Re: Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

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Rogan kept putting words in his mouth. He kept insinuating that Facebook and the FBI talked specifically about the Hunter Biden laptop story, when Zuckerberg did not say that at all. Zuckerberg said the FBI warned them to be on high alert for propaganda. Facebook's judgment after that conversation was that the Hunter Biden laptop story fit that profile. As for the story itself, I don't know all of the ins or outs, bu…

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Jared Kushner negotiated selling tens of billions of high tech weaponry to the Saudis, and then ended up with a bunch of Saudis renting empty apartments in his failed real estate project, at the same time he got a $2 billion check from the Middle East.

Ivanka negotiated trademarks with China at the same time she was literally in China with her father’s government negotiating Chinese trade deals.

They made over $100 million while they were working in the White House.

And this never concerned you?

Re: Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

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post #112
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your ISP decided to only transmit the string “jemmyw” 10% of the time, and blackhole the other 90% of jemmyw-containing packets, we would call that censorship. Facebook altered an algorithm to transmit a story to fewer people than it otherwise would have. It’s censorship.

If you try to say something to a 3rd person standing next to us and I shout you down, that is censorship. If I refuse to tell a 3rd person (not present) something you tell me, that is not censorship. I have no obligation to repeat your nonsense.

You don't, but FB is a communications channel.

Re: Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

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Probably? Considering what he said, it doesn't exactly seem like a high bar to beat.

I know I will find plenty of stuff like Zuckerberg’s dumb fucks comment in my AIM chat logs from when I was 19. I remember cringing at it within a few years.

Sure, and as any 19 year old -- same. But did either of us build a giant, world-dominating business that was built on top of our immoral, eventually cringey, foundations? Personally no, but maybe you did.
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