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USPTO to add surcharge on non-DOCX patent applications in 2023

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Re: USPTO to add surcharge on non-DOCX patent applications in 2023

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I don't think you submitted the link you wanted to. I see https://unblock.federalregister.gov/ which doesn't take me anywhere useful.

Sorry, I thought the second time (!) I've submitted this that the HN filter didn't mess up the link. Here it is (https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/04/28/2022-09...), hopefully!

In case that the overagressive HN filer ate it again, it's https www-federalregister-gov documents/2022/04/28/2022-09027/filing-patent-applications-in-docx-format

Also dang, recently HN's filters are too aggressive - from sentence-casing USPTO (to Uspto which isn't even a pronounceable acronym) to removing Twitter's search queries.

Re: USPTO to add surcharge on non-DOCX patent applications in 2023

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I've been working on some tools that integrate with USPTO (both from the application side and the validation side) for quite a few years now and they've been making a TON of formatting changes recently. A lot of their PDF forms have changed, they're requiring XML versions of all data we submit, they're handling classifications differently, etc. Their process always felt like it was stuck in the past and being handled manually by humans before and now it feels like they're moving everything toward automated intake and initial reviews. I imagine this change is for the same reasons, and that's a hefty fee to force it.

This also likely means I will need to rework our systems to spit out docx instead of/in addition to PDFs, which will be a nightmare to do. So that's fun.

Re: USPTO to add surcharge on non-DOCX patent applications in 2023

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I was wondering why docx format would be chosen instead of PDF but they answer it pretty completely here if anyone else is interested: https://www.uspto.gov/patents/docx

It looks like most of those translate to "We build our automated systems around DOCX so you get all our features if you use it".

But it doesn't really say why they chose to build on docx.

Re: USPTO to add surcharge on non-DOCX patent applications in 2023

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I was wondering why docx format would be chosen instead of PDF but they answer it pretty completely here if anyone else is interested: https://www.uspto.gov/patents/docx

Nice to see they call out LibreOffice as a usable application as well.

Re: USPTO to add surcharge on non-DOCX patent applications in 2023

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In case anyone is looking for the size of the surcharge, I found it in the last row of this table: https://www.federalregister.gov/d/2020-16559/p-555

So, $100-400 depending on the size (CFR section 1.16(u)). That feels... excessive, but if processing a DOCX is automatic and PDFs require humans (I'm assuming), it makes sense.
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