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The messages that survived civilisation's collapse

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Re: The messages that survived civilisation's collapse

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There's a few projects like that already happening, like Github's code repository on Svalbard. That said, I think one big reason why the artifacts mentioned - Sumerians, Mayans, Egyptians, or even Vesuvius - were preserved was because they were lost; buried in the desert, overgrown in dense jungles, buried under volcanic rock and ash, etc. For something to stand the test of time, it has to be lost. Al-Quaeda and ISIS…

The space container idea could make for a really interesting book plot. It starts in modern day where they send the capsule up. Then skips forward several hundred years to society collapsing. Then skip forward a few hundred more to see how the myth of knowledge falling from the sky is being passed down. Then it keeps skipping ahead to see how the myth evolves. By the end you just have some super cryptic prophecy like…

Highly recommend reading A Canticle for Leibowitz - it's a masterpiece that deals with exactly this over (can't exactly remember) 2 thousand years

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I love the fictional idea that I have that some billionaire will create multiple underground caverns around the world in geologically stable places, each containing the knowledge of the world - engraved onto aluminum plates. A vast cavern of tunnels and chambers and catacombs built only to preserve the worlds knowledge. I imagine in 10,000 years some future explorers making their way into such a cavern and finding al…

Non-alloy aluminum is too soft sapphire would be more durable ironically (?) it's a form of aluminum oxide. Diamond would be even better. Maybe we are wearing the messages of an ancient civilization in the form of diamonds?

The problem with these materials is that they're worth something when cut up into pieces. Something that isn't true for clay.

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I genuinely believe the people working on this problem are looking at it the wrong way. Instead of trying to make the waste repository into something highly visible, or mystical, they should instead choose a remote and inhospitable location where attempting to access the repository is economically nonviable for any future civilization. Assuming civilization collapses or regress to pre-industrial levels where the conc…

Tom Scott has a great video[0] about the Onkalo spent nuclear fuel repository in Finland[1], in which he talks about one of the reasons that they decided on the particular area - why would anyone dig there? Skip to 4:29 in the video for the relevant info. [0]: https://youtu.be/aoy_WJ3mE50 [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_spent_nuclear_fuel_repo...

2019 Tom: "It is due to go online next year"

Re: The messages that survived civilisation's collapse

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The space container idea could make for a really interesting book plot. It starts in modern day where they send the capsule up. Then skips forward several hundred years to society collapsing. Then skip forward a few hundred more to see how the myth of knowledge falling from the sky is being passed down. Then it keeps skipping ahead to see how the myth evolves. By the end you just have some super cryptic prophecy like…

Highly recommend reading A Canticle for Leibowitz - it's a masterpiece that deals with exactly this over (can't exactly remember) 2 thousand years

Appreciate the recommendation. I'll check it out
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