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Why do some humans love chili peppers?

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This is uncharitable to the genetic diversity in the implied western competition. If there was a difference, it would express itself immediately

What does genetic diversity have to do with anything?

Re: Why do some humans love chili peppers?

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I have a deviated septum and allergies. My nose gets plugged up pretty quickly.

Peppers make it much easier to keep things clear up there. It gets to the point where I start to crave peppers.

I rarely eat a meal without some kind of hot sauce. I've been leaning more towards Sriracha until this year's shortage, then reverted to Tabasco.

Re: Why do some humans love chili peppers?

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pick a chilli from a plant and eat it like how an animal would do in the wild. you'll want to jump into a pond after that. The chilli plant evolved in such a way that humans don't like chilli pepper. Humans used cooking and drying and diluting and other modern methods to reduce the ill-effects of spices and enjoy its flavors in small quantities.

> The chilli plant evolved in such a way that humans don't like chilli pepper. The hottest chilli cultivars were deliberately bread because humans like them.

Yes, but it's worth keeping in mind that everything that we call a chilli was selectively bred, and is quite different from the wild rootstock. Chiltepins [1], which is thought to be quite close to the wild variant, is much hotter than most commercial chillis today, although not up there with the hottest.

[1] https://www.nativeseeds.org/collections/chiltepines -- recommended, always have some in my pantry.

Re: Why do some humans love chili peppers?

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I've been growing chilis for 3 years and it's slowly become my hobby that gives me the most satisfaction. Most varieties (Especially Capsicum Chinense, the species that most superhots come from) calibrate very well to small spaces/resources. It's an incredibly satisfying hobby that gives an opportunity to get very technical with something without involving backlit screens, a wonderful social lubricant.

Re: Why do some humans love chili peppers?

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Well, at least for me, it is simple: a controlled pain sensation, in low quantities, giving a sense of excitement (even thinking about it gives me a tingling sensation and makes my mouth full of saliva), in higher - followed by a flood of endorphins. It is essentially getting high on locally-produced painkillers. From anecdata, chili-loving is strongly correlated with sensation seeking, or rather: the balance between…

Do people really feel a flood of endorphins? Growing up in a culture full of chili, I've had to endure my fair share of extra spicy food and never enjoyed it. It leaves me with nothing but a nasty burn in my mouth and an inability to taste anything for some time.

Maybe that wonderful sensation combination of "oh this is too spicy" and "oh I need some more of that" is like the runners high that some people just don't get.

HEB Carolina Reaper Puffs were my last moment of the combination:

https://spicyfoodreviews.com/2020/12/spicy-snacks-h%E2%80%91...

Re: Why do some humans love chili peppers?

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I occasionally have them raw in salads, though more often pickled (still technically raw I suppose). Chopped up and cooked in something too of course. I don't think that's unusual of me.

But would you eat chilli peppers like how you'd eat other fruits and veggies? Say tomatoes or beets. No. ofcourse not.

> But would you eat chilli peppers like how you'd eat other fruits and veggies? Say tomatoes or beets. No. ofcourse not.

Yes, of course I do. What point do you think you're making?

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I don't know what you mean. Raw chillis are commonly served in this area (Eastern Europe) together with soups, just like raw onions, for example. However, I've never seen anyone eat a raw beetroot. And of course, people don't put tomatoes in fruit salads, as the old saying goes - different fruit are eaten in different ways.

Raw beetroot is actually a great salad vegetable. We have it grated sometimes. Some can be a little earthy and have a bit of heat like radish or ginger.

Had raw grated beetroot in my salad today for lunch, and very tasty it was too. I pulled it out of the ground five weeks ago, weighed 1.4kg - it's the purple-and-white stripey version, makes the salad quite colourful. Been cutting bits off it to grate every time I have a salad. For some reason, beetroot seems to keep extremely well in the fridge.

Re: Why do some humans love chili peppers?

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These two papers give a much better answer than this blog: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S138904172... (why do humans increase their chili consumption) and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8042654/ (antibacterial + disease-alleviating properties of capsaicin). Besides the fact that capsaicin has antibacterial effects and exerts indirect disease-alleviating effects during bacterial infe…

I’ve gotten to a point where I prefer to drink a hot spicy soup in a cup over many things. If I drink coffee, it also always burning hot with a solid mix of cream, sugar and cinnamon. One of the things it helps me achieve is a small warmth that also helps me sleep. I don’t even resort to hot sauce for the broths anymore, just cutting up one or two small chili peppers makes the soup hotter. The soups are becoming a re…

I have a cup of Bovril with a bit of pepper and some Tabasco every morning. Pretty good stuff.

Re: Why do some humans love chili peppers?

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? It was imported from the new world around 1700 so 300 years.. not really a long time, just as new as the us.

Why do people refer to it as new / old world when it's been around and inhabited since forever? It's a weird misnomer, just like calling its inhabitants Indians, and just like calling countries 3rd world.

Its pretty universal though, all people have preconceptions like that. Like chinese tourists, calling home the mainland and the inhabitants of the visited country "foreigners". Its more prevalent in huge countries or ex empires though. Super annoying when your country is small and you have to adapt to these wrong pre conceptions because the other side gets insulted, if you call them "just another country among many".

Re: Why do some humans love chili peppers?

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Is there some secret trick to avoid trouble the day after?

For medium and somewhat hot peppers, the rule is pretty simple. Don't eat more than you are willing to chew. Mostly this is a problem of eating whole seeds or big chunks of pepper you aren't actually chewing up and digesting. Once you go hot enough, this won't matter. But I guess it's part of the experience.

Or simply skip eating it, just cut one chilli and put it into your soup/curry.
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