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Oracle started as a CIA project (2014)

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Re: Oracle started as a CIA project (2014)

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> I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Vox didn't highlight Oracle's CIA origins or its never-ending relationship with governments at all levels. The reason is missing: There's a high likelihood that it was a sponsored article, at least inofficially. Some journalists love to write nice stories about companies - pre-dictated by those companies. I don't have any specific insight here, but Vox aiming to be a "modern" m…

Oracle doesn't care if you're nice about them or not.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5170246

Re: Oracle started as a CIA project (2014)

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But not an ordinary welfare queen. People on a welfare can dream of a yacht, a masion, a private jet or young women as partners.

And their own Hawaiian island (well, 98% of a Hawaiian island).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanai

Re: Oracle started as a CIA project (2014)

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Your data is in a piece of software controlled by Oracle. They can easily create a backdoor designed for NSA use. Whether they "have" your data on their hardware or not doesn't make much of a difference in this case.

Maybe don't connect your database to the internet? Which is the normal way to install it locally?

If you connect it to any network at all. Is it beyond the NSA to string together several obscure vulnerabilities to attack a specific target? [1]

I mean.. I suppose you could air gap your database, but of what utility is it to you now?

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet

Re: Oracle started as a CIA project (2014)

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Same for investments by Chinese intelligence agencies. Right?

We tend to treat our rivals differently from ourselves. So no.

To the vast majority of the world, including large part of the West, USA is more hostile than China. So, who is “you”?

Re: Oracle started as a CIA project (2014)

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We tend to treat our rivals differently from ourselves. So no.

To the vast majority of the world, including large part of the West, USA is more hostile than China. So, who is “you”?

HN is a US-based service.

By the way, how is China coping with the vast flood of immigrants trying to move there? Oh, that's right -- there aren't any.

Re: Oracle started as a CIA project (2014)

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This is both a a very US-centric and trust in authority figures take. For the rest of the world however, and people who understand that power should have limits, and that a distrust in authority figures should be the default state the idea that companies like Oracle and Google are mere extensions of the CIA/NSA is terrifying.

Who said anything about trusting In-Q-Tel, the companies they invest in (ahem, GOOGLE!), or what the agencies are doing with the fruits of their investment? I personally think the CIA should be abolished and the NSA put on a very short leash with lots of oversight. But in terms of doing what they do wisely it cannot be argued that In-Q-Tel gives numerous US Government entities access to IP and tech they otherwise wou…

You keep saying InQ-Tel invested in Google but apparently it is Bullshit (look at the answers above). How about sticking to truth instead of conspiracy theories?

Re: Oracle started as a CIA project (2014)

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"In-Q-Tel" sorta sounds like... the question ("Q") at the heart of "Intel". Is this some sort of obscure reference to a trojan installed in Intel processors ?

If a security agency has a backdoor in intel CPUs, it seems unlikely to me that they would go around dropping hints like that.

Re: Oracle started as a CIA project (2014)

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Why would you need data to be in a specific brand of database before you can send legal process for it?

You wouldn't. It just simplifies 'things', from a technical and operational POV.

In what way does it simplify 'things'?
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