Live data from Hacker News

OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

openart.ai

91–100 of 101 posts

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

#93
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any idea what the “c” parameter is? Tried Googling “parameters stable diffusion” and unable to find anything that is obviously the same.

Classifier-free guidance

Thanks, using that information, appears “guidance_scale” is parameter’s name in the Stable Diffusion code.

https://github.com/CompVis/stable-diffusion/search?q=guidanc...

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

#94
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for your thoughtful comment, akozak! Great idea to add model provenance. I'm not sure if Dalle-2 embeds any metadata, but openAI also has this CLIP model https://openai.com/blog/clip/ that lets you get embeddings. So we will be using this for our search functionality. It works amazingly well. Stay tuned for the search functionality. It is super powerful for prompt engineering. Thanks for pointing out the copyr…

For more context about my 'metadata' comment, there is the PNG metadata (should be easy to check) but there is also the watermark in the bottom right. Here is a reddit thread (one of many) investigating the watermark, seems to conclude its innocuous: https://www.reddit.com/r/dalle2/comments/uaq7bf/discovery_da...

Thanks for the link. There is another thread talking about similar topic https://www.reddit.com/r/dalle2/comments/uro3js/i_compared_t... "b) Exploration of the bolded part of OpenAI's comment "Each generated image includes a signature in the lower right corner, with the goal of indicating when DALL·E 2 helped generate a certain image." (source)." (source link: https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/blob/main/system-c...)

I feel the DALL-E 2 watermark signature could be a seed or something.

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

#95
post #14

Is there someone in the illustrator community who is not excited about this meaningful technology? So cool. You don't have a job anymore. As a start, you will get less money. Why I have to pay you when GPT 3 can generate prompts for DALL-E? Send your congratulations to the geniuses which in search of validation and budget optimization are bringing this revolution ahead. This thing proved for me that the UI design and…

Honestly it's not that much different than sampling in music. A few years ago Kayne West tried something similar when instead of paying Aphex Twin for the sample usage of "Avril 14th", he asked John Legend to play basically a carbon copy of the track on a piano[1]. Ultimately he had to pay for the track anyway. Same here. Did you use my artworks while training your AI model? Cool, pay me licensing rights and residual…

But how is it different from human artists creating new artworks based on their studies of thousands of previous works, I wonder? No artists have paid royalties just because they went to an exhibition and had a glimpse of other painter’s work, no?

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First define "true art" and we'll start there

Precisely, that's why we need a bit of help from philosophers and people that has deep historical knowledge of Art. From my naivety, if art started as a form of human expression, purely synthetically produced expressions are the antithesis of art. We can discuss what that is instead.

I think many people who aren't artists lack the skills to express their creativity and imagination, in a visual way like the artists do, and that's how this kind of AI tool can help with.

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

#97

Anyone know what the numbers are after the text? e.g. "a Tim Burton style drawing of Saul Goodman | 756" I'm guessing it refers to a style and I'm curious if there's an index for the different styles.

It's the verification code from a discord server to verify you have the access to DALL-E. https://discord.gg/openaidalle

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are tons of artists who value speed even without managers or deadlines. I can see animators making great use of AI to: 1. Quickly create storyboards that convey the mood and style of the scenes 2. Sketch out rough ideas for characters, environments 3. Generate the in-between frames of animations AI will be used as a tool, it's the artists job to judge the output, guide it, and tweak it as necessary. Just like a…

Love the ideas you mentioned! I agree that AI can help artists with scaling up.

You are an artist, I assume, or not? Why you don't invent AI financial revolution to remove the banks from the financial system and just say to them: I agree that AI can help banks with scaling up. The funny part is that this already happens, your carbon-social index is waiting for you to be judged by AI. Not by human. And the banks will still be here.:)

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly it's not that much different than sampling in music. A few years ago Kayne West tried something similar when instead of paying Aphex Twin for the sample usage of "Avril 14th", he asked John Legend to play basically a carbon copy of the track on a piano[1]. Ultimately he had to pay for the track anyway. Same here. Did you use my artworks while training your AI model? Cool, pay me licensing rights and residual…

But how is it different from human artists creating new artworks based on their studies of thousands of previous works, I wonder? No artists have paid royalties just because they went to an exhibition and had a glimpse of other painter’s work, no?

This is basically Art School 101, and the answer can be summed up as:

Another painter would go for contextual and topical inference, specifically trying to understand why some techniques and painting styles garner a specific response. The AI goes for topological inference - there are no other informations beyond the painting data itself. It observes that some artists keep reusing the same colors and proportions and builds over the data by using very complicated parametric analysis. It's still mechanical reproduction, just extremely more complicated than in the past.

And there's nothing intrinsically wrong with this, mind you - going back to my previous musical comparison, Daft Punk built a career with a lo-fi version of this idea, but they never tried to pretend that Harder Better Faster Stronger isn't anything but an extremely, extremely clever flip of Edwin Birdsong's "Cola Bottle Baby". And they paid both licensing and royalties for it.

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Precisely, that's why we need a bit of help from philosophers and people that has deep historical knowledge of Art. From my naivety, if art started as a form of human expression, purely synthetically produced expressions are the antithesis of art. We can discuss what that is instead.

I think many people who aren't artists lack the skills to express their creativity and imagination, in a visual way like the artists do, and that's how this kind of AI tool can help with.

But you're talking about high-cultural art thresholds, which is a valid topic but not the core of the concept.

Any kid is an artist in a way, every caveman that painted its cave was an artist, you seducing your wife/girlfriend/significant other are doing art. Some silly memes are or aren't?

That's why I repeat. We need a remix of technologists and philosopher's raising this discussion up.

Post reply on HN