It is terrible, but what is the alternative to prevent cheating? I had quite a few on-line exams by now and I've seen very creative attempts at cheating so far.
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Re: Remote scan of student’s room before test violated his privacy, judge rules
#12It is terrible, but what is the alternative to prevent cheating? I had quite a few on-line exams by now and I've seen very creative attempts at cheating so far.
Solve the fucking problem without violating privacy. If it doesn't get solved, fine, let it be. Accept those consequences and live with it.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
You've been able to take online classes for decades, why is this suddenly a problem? Moreover, if people want to cheat they can find some way to cheat regardless of any countermeasures you deploy.
>which [why?] is this suddenly a problem? Because most of teachers didn't teach online class before. They are not used to design exams that would not be way too easy it suddenly becomes open book. I won't even say they're "lazy", coming up good take-home exams is super hard, especially when you spend your entire career not need to do that. > if people want to cheat they can find some way to cheat regardless of any co…
Re: Remote scan of student’s room before test violated his privacy, judge rules
#14It is terrible, but what is the alternative to prevent cheating? I had quite a few on-line exams by now and I've seen very creative attempts at cheating so far.
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#15Many students and professionals taking tests cheat casually and without embarrassment: It is seen as simply an efficient way to maximize grades.
Re: Remote scan of student’s room before test violated his privacy, judge rules
#16We always have the option of oral onsite exams as has been custom for many years, and accept that education does not scale excessively.
We can also keep developing surveillance tech and other AI solutions to the problem and handle the ethical issues.
In the end it will probably become a balance.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
>which [why?] is this suddenly a problem? Because most of teachers didn't teach online class before. They are not used to design exams that would not be way too easy it suddenly becomes open book. I won't even say they're "lazy", coming up good take-home exams is super hard, especially when you spend your entire career not need to do that. > if people want to cheat they can find some way to cheat regardless of any co…
Come on now, some of the college instructors weren't even teaching the offline classes. 200 students in a lecture hall and some random TA grading and assigning the tests. Do you honesty believe the TA knows each and ever student and that someone else didn't show up on exam day?!
Re: Remote scan of student’s room before test violated his privacy, judge rules
#18After 15 minutes of removing random stuff from my desk, under my desk, on my walls, including but not limited to disassembling a wall-mounted TV set, as instructed by the proctor, I gave up. I rented an office at a co-working place that was sterile white. Then they tried to accuse me of using camera-modifying software to add a background, because "no room is that clean".
If we do keep up this proctored test-at-home system, we need to have a workable way to make sure the testing room still works out as a living space after the test.
Re: Remote scan of student’s room before test violated his privacy, judge rules
#19It is terrible, but what is the alternative to prevent cheating? I had quite a few on-line exams by now and I've seen very creative attempts at cheating so far.
Re: Remote scan of student’s room before test violated his privacy, judge rules
#20It is terrible, but what is the alternative to prevent cheating? I had quite a few on-line exams by now and I've seen very creative attempts at cheating so far.
Design better tests. If you can "cheat" on a test by just googling things/looking at notes then the test isn't testing anything but rote memorization anyway.
I see the same when I interview people online and I hear them frantically click their keyboard - but no help, I know before what Google returns.