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Post by tgv »

kache_ wrote: post #114
jquery wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I for one am glad that, for once in my life, an obviously huge advancement is taking into account the human impact of releasing the technology responsibly. Maybe it’s just a “BS statement” but given the major strides they’re making at removing racial/gender biases[1] from similar projects, I don’t think it’s just hot air. Especially given the phenomenon of “bias amplification”. Maybe I’m being too optimistic but eith…

right, because I can't be trusted to not be racist

Indeed, you can't be trusted not do anything bad with it. Who's going to vet each and every user? Who's going to check every time it's used for the coming 10, 20, 30 years?

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Post by formerly_proven »

goldenkey wrote: post #82
FairlyInvolved wrote: post #79

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I kind of get the sentiment about openness but I think it's way more nuanced than you are making out. There are very good reasons for withholding SOTA models, primarily from the info hazard angle and avoiding escalating the capabilities race which is basically the biggest risk we have right now. Google / Deepmind have actually made some good decisions to try and slow down the race (such as waiting to publish).

Capabilities race, seriously? This is not nuclear warfare my guy. It's mathematics.

In the same sense that deep learning is just linear regression with a steroid problem.

Re: Imagen: An AI system that creates photorealistic images from input text

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Post by dcsan »

echelon wrote: post #57
mshenfield wrote: post #28

These tools are amazing for prototyping. I had an idea for a promotional poster, and seeing my idea just by writing it felt like magic. The generated image had too many artifacts to use, but gave me a guideline to follow when creating the real thing in Pixlr. AI content generation (text, image, source code, video, music) will be a huge boon for prototyping where applied judiciously.

Google hasn't released squat . Google's product is vaporware and we shouldn't afford them any airtime until they release something usable. They're just trying to butt in and get press off of the backs of the teams actually working in the open, and that's super lame. Release your model, Google, or stop bragging and talking over the others here. You're greedily sucking oxygen out of the conversation, and as a trillion…

Can you talk more about the prompt augmentation the midjourney is doing behind the scenes? It's certainly true that you can put in a two-word phrase like "Time travelers" and get an amazing result back, which reveals just how much your prompt is getting dropped into a prompt soup that also gives it that midjourney look by default.

Re: Imagen: An AI system that creates photorealistic images from input text

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Post by tgv »

For all those who are practically demanding this be turned over to them, here's a quote from a recent article (about Telegram):

Filing a charge is pointless, says Ezra. Since two years, she's being harassed on Telegram. It started when she was sixteen: photoshopped nudes with her snapchat account were circulated. They had taken selfies from her social media, and those of her family, and combined them with porn fragments. She doesn't know the perpetrator, but that person takes a lot of trouble to ruin her. "Nowadays, the boys have so many ways to make it look real." [1]

If you read that, and think all these tools should be released, you're part of the problem.

[1] de Groene Amsterdammer,146/33, p. 21.

Re: Imagen: An AI system that creates photorealistic images from input text

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Post by psyc »

lm28469 wrote: post #119
HPsquared wrote: post #116

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It's division of labour. The toolmaker has a different set of skills to the user of the tools.

The user, me included, has less and less knowledge and skills though. When your tool becomes a megacorp owned subscription based service you barely understand is it really a tool ? It doesn't produce art in the way a brush and paint produce art, you barely have any control on what it does, you just become an image filter, you press a few keys, look at the image for 5 seconds and decide if it triggers the right part o…

I can sort of see the "barely understand" part being relevant if I squint. Really don't know how "megacorp subscription" relates to a tool's toolhood.

Re: Imagen: An AI system that creates photorealistic images from input text

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Post by LudwigNagasena »

tgv wrote: post #124

For all those who are practically demanding this be turned over to them, here's a quote from a recent article (about Telegram): Filing a charge is pointless, says Ezra. Since two years, she's being harassed on Telegram. It started when she was sixteen: photoshopped nudes with her snapchat account were circulated. They had taken selfies from her social media, and those of her family, and combined them with porn fragme…

> If you read that, and think all these tools should be released, you're part of the problem.

Such comments make me wonder whether a social credit system is actually a good idea. Yes, it can be abused to deny my rights, but how can it be worse than being assumed to be a sexual predator by default?

Re: Imagen: An AI system that creates photorealistic images from input text

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

jquery wrote: post #110
Roark66 wrote: post #74

Every single time I see an article about a new AI model that has a section called "societal impact" I know immediately they are not releasing the model, the training set, nothing... It seems to be the kind of bullshit statement that those companies put in place of "we paid $500k training this model and we're not giving it for free to anyone".

I for one am glad that, for once in my life, an obviously huge advancement is taking into account the human impact of releasing the technology responsibly. Maybe it’s just a “BS statement” but given the major strides they’re making at removing racial/gender biases[1] from similar projects, I don’t think it’s just hot air. Especially given the phenomenon of “bias amplification”. Maybe I’m being too optimistic but eith…

Funny how it stopped mattering when OpenAI decided to charge for it.

Re: Imagen: An AI system that creates photorealistic images from input text

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Post by IanCal »

lm28469 wrote: post #112
sheilaalien wrote: post #97

I'm surprised how very little this forum and the public in general knows or understands about the current capabilities and availability to these ai art generators. You have midjourney.com beta.dreamstudio.ai craiyon.com (real quick version no fuss, low quality) creator.nightcafe.studio and those are just some of the entry-level ones. I make ai art all day long! Check out my media feed on twitter @Sheilaaliens

> I make ai art all day long! I feel like this is the epitome of modern "content creation" Typing a few sentences into a software you barely understand, said software shits 15 jpegs out, 2 are good, "hey I make art". What a sad state of affair, tech is consuming everything and people are cheering, one more step on the path to being complete useless key pressers.

Photography is well known to have killed art.

Press a button on a box you barely understand and the camera shits out a pic. "Hey I make art". What a sad state of affair, tech is consuming everything and people are cheering, one more step on the path to being complete useless key pressers.

Re: Imagen: An AI system that creates photorealistic images from input text

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Post by culi »

glenneroo wrote: post #76
culi wrote: post #23

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Generated and paying for MidJourney gives you the copyright to them so you can use them for whatever projects you want

Which feels a bit sketchy(?) to me, seeing as all models are built on imagery scraped from the net without anyone's permission. It's one reason why I've spent the last month training my own models using my own imagery. If these stock photo sites had any brains, they would also start training models on images in their databases, especially since they already have everything sorted into categories based on keywords (wh…

I totally agree. Also, that sounds like a wonderful project :) You should post project updates somewhere to keep track of your model as it evolves!
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