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I Choose Optimism

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Re: I Choose Optimism

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Christianity falls apart if there is no fear or belief in repercussions after death. Why not just be a decent person without being threatened? It's how the majority of people in the world do things.

You misunderstand Christianity in the way most people do. "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." - Ephesians 2:9 "know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the…

> If you believe that God forgave your sins at the behest of Christ, and that you will enter an eternal kingdom also as a son of God, wouldn't you eventually be more liable to forgive and love others?

No. History has been the judge and has left Christianity wanting. You want a faith that truly causes love and care for others? Jainism. "By their fruits you shall know them" Jesus said didn't he? Well the fruits of Christianity are rotten.

Re: I Choose Optimism

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> I could just as easily have devised a moral construct which allowed me to adopt maximal behaviors for accumulating money and wealth, for instance. However, I did not choose that path, in the end. I very easily could have, however. And that was purely my choice. You don't choose your beliefs. You choose your actions. You don't choose to believe generosity is good; you choose to follow a code of generosity. Conversel…

> You don't choose your beliefs. That's a completely unsupported statement presented as fact; therefore I'll dismiss it with just as much effort.

I've actually spent quite a bit of writing in this thread explaining why I'm convinced of this.
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