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Patent Trolls Inbound: Our First Lawsuit

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Re: Patent Trolls Inbound: Our First Lawsuit

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Post by powerhour »

j-bos wrote: post #6
labrador wrote: post #3

I always thought Hotz an interesting character. This paragraph adds to that impression: "What he didn’t take into account is that comma isn’t run by rational actors in suits sitting on a committee. It’s run by me, George Hotz. I’m willing to lose $1M before I give him $10k. We will hire an amazing legal team, fight this, and while doing so invalidate his patents so they can’t be used against anyone else. Not because…

Strikes me that a lot of today's ills would be solved (or replaced) by more individual agency. Gold applause to Hotz.

It seems like something that could attract funding from other possible victims.

Re: Patent Trolls Inbound: Our First Lawsuit

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Post by judge2020 »

sib wrote: post #10
labrador wrote: post #3

I always thought Hotz an interesting character. This paragraph adds to that impression: "What he didn’t take into account is that comma isn’t run by rational actors in suits sitting on a committee. It’s run by me, George Hotz. I’m willing to lose $1M before I give him $10k. We will hire an amazing legal team, fight this, and while doing so invalidate his patents so they can’t be used against anyone else. Not because…

This has been Newegg's strategy forever... https://www.newegg.com/insider/newegg-vs-patent-trolls-when-...

Same for Cloudflare:

https://blog.cloudflare.com/project-jengo-redux-cloudflares-...

Re: Patent Trolls Inbound: Our First Lawsuit

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Post by jacquesm »

I've been on the receiving end of one of these (for my own invention, no less), helped bust another. Much good luck to George Hotz on this one. I can't stand patent trolls and even as an atheist I secretly hope there is a hell so they will get what's coming to them.

Re: Patent Trolls Inbound: Our First Lawsuit

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Post by thfuran »

j-bos wrote: post #6
labrador wrote: post #3

I always thought Hotz an interesting character. This paragraph adds to that impression: "What he didn’t take into account is that comma isn’t run by rational actors in suits sitting on a committee. It’s run by me, George Hotz. I’m willing to lose $1M before I give him $10k. We will hire an amazing legal team, fight this, and while doing so invalidate his patents so they can’t be used against anyone else. Not because…

Strikes me that a lot of today's ills would be solved (or replaced) by more individual agency. Gold applause to Hotz.

It seems to me that considerably more of today's ills would be solved by more collective action.

Re: Patent Trolls Inbound: Our First Lawsuit

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Post by dymk »

thfuran wrote: post #14
j-bos wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strikes me that a lot of today's ills would be solved (or replaced) by more individual agency. Gold applause to Hotz.

It seems to me that considerably more of today's ills would be solved by more collective action.

You first?

Re: Patent Trolls Inbound: Our First Lawsuit

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Post by sva_ »

labrador wrote: post #3

I always thought Hotz an interesting character. This paragraph adds to that impression: "What he didn’t take into account is that comma isn’t run by rational actors in suits sitting on a committee. It’s run by me, George Hotz. I’m willing to lose $1M before I give him $10k. We will hire an amazing legal team, fight this, and while doing so invalidate his patents so they can’t be used against anyone else. Not because…

> It’s run by me, George Hotz.

I'm torn between considering it a power move of mentioning yourself and linking to the Wikipedia entry about you, or not. But I appreciate the troll hunt.

Re: Patent Trolls Inbound: Our First Lawsuit

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Post by thfuran »

dymk wrote: post #15
thfuran wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to me that considerably more of today's ills would be solved by more collective action.

You first?

Take for instance the problem of patent trolls, which could be much more comprehensively solved by regulatory/legal reform than by one guy with a well-funded legal team.

Re: Patent Trolls Inbound: Our First Lawsuit

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Post by etaioinshrdlu »

To play devil's advocate, there is nothing about being a patent troll inherently illegal. Hotz feels the patent is invalid, but it might not be. Our system does not require you to ever build the object patented before extracting fees from it. This is in fact the way the US patent system works.

One of the patents is here: https://portal.unifiedpatents.com/patents/patent/10454707

Method, Apparatus and System for Retrofitting a Vehicle. This does in fact describe what Comma does. Looks like it might be infringing!

Now Comma must prove this patent cannot be valid.

Re: Patent Trolls Inbound: Our First Lawsuit

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Post by duxup »

j-bos wrote: post #6
labrador wrote: post #3

I always thought Hotz an interesting character. This paragraph adds to that impression: "What he didn’t take into account is that comma isn’t run by rational actors in suits sitting on a committee. It’s run by me, George Hotz. I’m willing to lose $1M before I give him $10k. We will hire an amazing legal team, fight this, and while doing so invalidate his patents so they can’t be used against anyone else. Not because…

Strikes me that a lot of today's ills would be solved (or replaced) by more individual agency. Gold applause to Hotz.

If we all could spend a million on lawsuits… dunno if that is good.
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