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IFixit: Self Repair Program makes M1 MacBooks less repairable

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Re: IFixit: Self Repair Program makes M1 MacBooks less repairable

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Post by vimy »

pilgrimfff wrote: post #32
rocket_surgeron wrote: post #19

>This time, along with the manuals, Apple is presenting DIY repairers with a excruciating gauntlet of hurdles: read 162 pages of documentation without getting intimidated I read the PDF. https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/2000/MA2083/en_US/mac... It seems highly likely to me that anyone claiming this document is intimidating either has not read it or is lying for some reason. In many respects, the Apple document…

> iFixit praises the M1 MacBook Air service manuals by saying “they’re in-depth, mostly logical, and well worth an additional repairability point,” This is the service manual you're referencing. The one they're complaining about it is the M1 MacBook Pro. Here's the actual manual referenced: https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/2000/MA2085/en_US/mac... And here's iFixIt's actual complaint: > it’s not 162 pages becau…

It’s always been like that. Bring your macbook to an Apple store for a battery replacement and they will replace the top case.

Re: IFixit: Self Repair Program makes M1 MacBooks less repairable

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Post by suetoniusp91 »

reaperducer wrote: post #55
rocket_surgeron wrote: post #19

>This time, along with the manuals, Apple is presenting DIY repairers with a excruciating gauntlet of hurdles: read 162 pages of documentation without getting intimidated I read the PDF. https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/2000/MA2083/en_US/mac... It seems highly likely to me that anyone claiming this document is intimidating either has not read it or is lying for some reason. In many respects, the Apple document…

It seems highly likely to me that anyone claiming this document is intimidating either has not read it or is lying for some reason. I used to be a fan of iFixIt, and have even bought one of its larger tool kits, but have lost respect for it in the last few years. In part, because any time Apple does anything , iFixIt is there with a snarky criticism. Like it just really really really needs the clicks. I don't mind pe…

Every single person related to repairing devices hates apple. For decades they have been at the forefront "you should not be able to fix/change your device". The have created billions of lbs of trash and psyop'd millions of people through these policies, and yet their unpaid shills still come out to defend them. Disgusting

Re: IFixit: Self Repair Program makes M1 MacBooks less repairable

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Post by suetoniusp91 »

anonymouse008 wrote: post #7

The audacity is sky high. Just check the attention to detail and care put into these manuals. The gradient blue arrows are masked by glass and alter in arrow opacities to make abundantly clear how the device is supposed to react to the force applied. You all should have been there in the original iPhone days. I apologize to my early customers as to achieve anything close to a 'repair' meant losing a few back clips an…

Apple has never and will never be the main Target of companies like Ifixit because the vast majority of Apple users are tech illiterate NPCs. Stop shilling for a trillion dollar company for free. At least get payed for it

Re: IFixit: Self Repair Program makes M1 MacBooks less repairable

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Post by amluto »

rocket_surgeron wrote: post #19

>This time, along with the manuals, Apple is presenting DIY repairers with a excruciating gauntlet of hurdles: read 162 pages of documentation without getting intimidated I read the PDF. https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/2000/MA2083/en_US/mac... It seems highly likely to me that anyone claiming this document is intimidating either has not read it or is lying for some reason. In many respects, the Apple document…

I once replaced an iPhone display with an iFixit kit, following the iFixit instructions:

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+SE+Screen+Replacement/61...

The instructions for reassembly are, in their entirety:

> CONCLUSION

> To reassemble your device, follow these instructions in reverse order.

Thanks. I would have loved to see actual instructions. It is distinctly nontrivial to get the display back in, especially if the case is even slightly damaged.

On top of this, I have never encountered a non-OEM aftermarket iPhone display that wasn’t linearly polarized. If you wear polarized sunglasses, a non-polarized or circularly polarized display is an important feature.

So I consider the Apple program to be a big improvement.

Re: IFixit: Self Repair Program makes M1 MacBooks less repairable

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Post by filmgirlcw »

rocket_surgeron wrote: post #19

>This time, along with the manuals, Apple is presenting DIY repairers with a excruciating gauntlet of hurdles: read 162 pages of documentation without getting intimidated I read the PDF. https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/2000/MA2083/en_US/mac... It seems highly likely to me that anyone claiming this document is intimidating either has not read it or is lying for some reason. In many respects, the Apple document…

I was going to say, this is a really terrific manual. Yes, many people will be better served watching a video (especially if they are new to repairs, and if that’s the case, I personally don’t recommend starting your DIY repair journey on a current-gen Apple laptop, but that’s just me), and many of the iFixit guides are quite good, but this service manual is comprehensive, well-written and easy to follow.

I also read the 162-page thing, along with a claim you had to read that just to replace the battery. And that’s not the case? The entire manual is 162 pages, not just the instructions for relaxing the top case and battery.

Yes, I think it’s insane that you (right now) have to replace the entire top case to replace the battery. It’s genuinely absurd. Apple says they’ll sell the batteries separately at some point, so that’s good. But that’s still insane.

That said, I’m not really here for exaggerations about what is an incredibly well-written manual. It’s not like this is going to cut into iFixit’s guide or tool business because I don’t see Apple trying to game the SEO for MacBook repair guide; Apple would rather you take your MacBook to an Apple Store.

Re: IFixit: Self Repair Program makes M1 MacBooks less repairable

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Post by alphabettsy »

josephcsible wrote: post #48
kube-system wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People asked for Apple's repair manual, and they provided their repair manual. Apple isn't going to recommend you forcefully remove a LiPo, but you're free to do so if you want to do that instead.

If a car service manual said "replace the engine" (along with detailed instructions on how to do so) when a spark plug went bad, would you consider that acceptable just because the manual were released?

A more apt analogy is the spark plug is stuck, stripped or broken.

In that case should they provided detailed instructions on removal where that risks destroying the engine or at least the heads?

Re: IFixit: Self Repair Program makes M1 MacBooks less repairable

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Post by tomxor »

wlesieutre wrote: post #74
ezfe wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do say on the website they're planning on selling the batteries individually in the future.

Whoops, so they do. That's a repair I wouldn't want to touch by myself but good luck to anybody who does! The last Mac laptop I did repairs on was a snapped hinge and man that a painful process. Similar boat with having to take the entire computer apart (including the screen assembly). These days I'd be much happier to pay someone to deal with that, but doing it yourself is certainly the affordable solution and I'm g…

It doesn't have to be hard if they design it reasonably. XPS is similarly "thin" and you only have to undo 4 screws to replace the battery.

Re: IFixit: Self Repair Program makes M1 MacBooks less repairable

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Post by alphabettsy »

rahkiin wrote: post #10
dillutedfixer wrote: post #6

I've had my 16" MBP since early April and I only have 30 cycles on the battery. At my usage rate, I charge this thing about once or twice a week on average. At this rate, the battery is going to last longer than any laptop battery I've ever owned. And then when it finally degrades to the point that I need to replace it, I would happily pay $199 to Apple for a new one rather than save a few dollars and do it myself. P…

My battery severely degraded without the cycles. I had 150 cycles after 4 years with 78% capacity. I am now at 239 cycles at 64% capacity.

The older batteries were rated for 500 cycles so that doesn’t seem unusual.

Re: IFixit: Self Repair Program makes M1 MacBooks less repairable

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Post by avisser »

vimy wrote: post #81
pilgrimfff wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> iFixit praises the M1 MacBook Air service manuals by saying “they’re in-depth, mostly logical, and well worth an additional repairability point,” This is the service manual you're referencing. The one they're complaining about it is the M1 MacBook Pro. Here's the actual manual referenced: https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/2000/MA2085/en_US/mac... And here's iFixIt's actual complaint: > it’s not 162 pages becau…

It’s always been like that. Bring your macbook to an Apple store for a battery replacement and they will replace the top case.

I purchased a battery (just a battery) for my 2013 MBP. It was a pain to replace, but I replaced it with the help of an iFixIt guide.

I believe it's that kind of guide people expected Apple to publish.

So you may be right that it's always been Apple's policy, but the point was that the self-repair program is falling short of expectations. iFixIt set a standard and Apple has fallen short.

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