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Re: Hunting For A Tech Job In Silicon Valley

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Post by grofe »

ticks wrote: post #23
feydr wrote: post #8

I shit you not -- if you are in San Francisco I can take you out partying and you'll have a job you love the next day <-- this is how retarded easy it is to get a software job in this city -- EVERYONE is hiring

It's odd. All these businesses are fighting over a small amount of talent. Why not just have a remote office in San Francisco and focus development elsewhere in the country? This happens a lot with agencies, where they locate their sales, marketing, even designers in say New York or London, meanwhile the bulk of the company is elsewhere - in locations with high unemployment and lots of developers. In those areas you…

Because the valuations you would get headquartered in Silicon Valley seem to be far higher than you would get elsewhere.

I've built up a (profitable) tech startup in Canada in the last few years, and get valuations in the range of 20 times earnings or 2 times revenue. Respectable compared to the S&P 500, but laughable compared to what seems to be the norm in the valley (or at least what seems to be the norm based on what I read here)

Not that i'm complaining, i love canada, but something to consider.

Re: Hunting For A Tech Job In Silicon Valley

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Post by meatmanek »

ticks wrote: post #23
feydr wrote: post #8

I shit you not -- if you are in San Francisco I can take you out partying and you'll have a job you love the next day <-- this is how retarded easy it is to get a software job in this city -- EVERYONE is hiring

It's odd. All these businesses are fighting over a small amount of talent. Why not just have a remote office in San Francisco and focus development elsewhere in the country? This happens a lot with agencies, where they locate their sales, marketing, even designers in say New York or London, meanwhile the bulk of the company is elsewhere - in locations with high unemployment and lots of developers. In those areas you…

Why have your developers in San Francisco? Because software devs want to work around other software devs. It's an exciting town to be in if you work in software, and lots of developers want to move out here. It's hard to say the same for towns with high unemployment like Cleveland or Detroit.

Re: Hunting For A Tech Job In Silicon Valley

#33

Post by yewtree »

grofe wrote: post #31
ticks wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's odd. All these businesses are fighting over a small amount of talent. Why not just have a remote office in San Francisco and focus development elsewhere in the country? This happens a lot with agencies, where they locate their sales, marketing, even designers in say New York or London, meanwhile the bulk of the company is elsewhere - in locations with high unemployment and lots of developers. In those areas you…

Because the valuations you would get headquartered in Silicon Valley seem to be far higher than you would get elsewhere. I've built up a (profitable) tech startup in Canada in the last few years, and get valuations in the range of 20 times earnings or 2 times revenue. Respectable compared to the S&P 500, but laughable compared to what seems to be the norm in the valley (or at least what seems to be the norm based on…

any developer openings?

Re: Hunting For A Tech Job In Silicon Valley

#34

Post by hkarthik »

ticks wrote: post #23
feydr wrote: post #8

I shit you not -- if you are in San Francisco I can take you out partying and you'll have a job you love the next day <-- this is how retarded easy it is to get a software job in this city -- EVERYONE is hiring

It's odd. All these businesses are fighting over a small amount of talent. Why not just have a remote office in San Francisco and focus development elsewhere in the country? This happens a lot with agencies, where they locate their sales, marketing, even designers in say New York or London, meanwhile the bulk of the company is elsewhere - in locations with high unemployment and lots of developers. In those areas you…

  ...locations with high unemployment and lots of developers
Do such places still exist? Even with high unemployment numbers, I don't see many unemployed developers right now. A lot of the work in other areas is a little boring and Enterprisey (.NET, Java, C++) but there are still jobs in such areas and a shortage of people.

Re: Hunting For A Tech Job In Silicon Valley

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Post by tibbon »

Instead of hitting the pavement digitally, might I suggest mainly browsing the websites of startups, checking here on HN (HelloFax for example is hiring!), and then going to every event/meeting you can slide your way into. I think that would pay off a ton more than any job posting site.

Re: Hunting For A Tech Job In Silicon Valley

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Post by codenerdz »

feydr wrote: post #8

I shit you not -- if you are in San Francisco I can take you out partying and you'll have a job you love the next day <-- this is how retarded easy it is to get a software job in this city -- EVERYONE is hiring

So the job interview would take place during the "partying" and you will end up with what we old-timers like to call "competitive" salary?

Re: Hunting For A Tech Job In Silicon Valley

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Post by Nat0 »

earl wrote: post #25

I skimmed this, but then I saw Madison, WI jump out. Here's a warning: I'd bet $100 the company was Epic Systems. They're a godawful employer [1]. Please please please think multiple times and talk to previous employees before accepting a job there. They're infamous for hiring devs on h1bs, refusing to sponsor them for a green card, and working their asses off while paying as little as possible and well under market.…

Sounds like they have a similar management style to Cerner in Kansas City.

Re: Hunting For A Tech Job In Silicon Valley

#38

Post by dredmorbius »

diego wrote: post #7

In the Bay Area, high tech jobs hunt you (at least right now). Fill in your LinkedIn profile like the first comment suggests, build your reputation (GitHub, StackOverflow) and you'll start getting approached by recruiters.

I've been very deliberately lowering my profile just to get some peace.

Which means nuking most of the content on my LinkedIn account. Seems to have slowed the tide modestly.

Re: Hunting For A Tech Job In Silicon Valley

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Post by vaksel »

earl wrote: post #26

protip: pick keywords for the tech stack you want to work in, whether {.net, java, ios/android, web:{rails,django,node,js,html5}}. Hook up if this then that ( http://ifttt.com ) to your google talk account. Every 15 minutes it will poll craigslist jobs looking for your keywords then im to your google talk account; it's wonderful. I think they also support email endpoints and maybe rss.

that's fine if you want to go work at half pay...cragislist is one of the worst sites when it comes to cheapskates

Re: Hunting For A Tech Job In Silicon Valley

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Post by MervynSF »

earl wrote: post #25

I skimmed this, but then I saw Madison, WI jump out. Here's a warning: I'd bet $100 the company was Epic Systems. They're a godawful employer [1]. Please please please think multiple times and talk to previous employees before accepting a job there. They're infamous for hiring devs on h1bs, refusing to sponsor them for a green card, and working their asses off while paying as little as possible and well under market.…

You just won $100. The company that approached me was Epic Systems! It's disgraceful that this type of a company can operate and use talented IT graduates so badly. The amount of negative sentiment from former employees is astounding. Whilst I would not currently consider the idea of relocating to Madison you've included some great advice in your post. I will research these types of offers a lot more thoroughly in the future. I appreciate your feedback.
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