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Denuvo Launches Nintendo Switch Emulator Protection

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Re: Denuvo Launches Nintendo Switch Emulator Protection

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post #15

I hope Nintendo is ready for the refund requests.

That would require them to give refunds at all, the eShop currently does not do that and no one fought them on it yet.

Realistically Nintendo can do whatever they want, they could take a dump in times square and people would flock to it. They've been selling broken controllers for 6 years.

Re: Denuvo Launches Nintendo Switch Emulator Protection

#22
why does this trash still exist? Haven't we learned anything from starforce, securom and all the other DRMs? Also don't companies understand that most people who pirate these days either do it or rather not play the game at all? Personally, I blacklisted all denuvo games long time ago and don't own any.

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I think the market that plays games on emulators is pretty different than the market that plays on console. I don't know if this will really bring the effect that the game devs want. It will only hurt the preservation and cultural impact of these games down the road when one isn't able to buy the games new but they can't be emulated.

Someone will crack it. The point of these protection systems isn't to absolutely prevent copying (or emulation in this case?) but rather increase the amount of time before emulation becomes available (because someone cracked it)

Re: Denuvo Launches Nintendo Switch Emulator Protection

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post #4

Kiss your battery life goodbye since it will be siphoning more CPU cycles. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://youtu.be/1VpWKwIjwLk?t=394

On a system that already struggles to keep up on a lot of games, because it ships with a chip from 2014. Will be fun to see the comparisons.

Re: Denuvo Launches Nintendo Switch Emulator Protection

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What can we, the tech community, do to make it more likely that this ends up being defeated and an utter failure?

Crack it. As fast as possible.

The only person on the planet that is currently cracking Denuvo is Empress.

Re: Denuvo Launches Nintendo Switch Emulator Protection

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post #10

Denuvo "copy protection" is so universally loathed by PC gamers that several publishers have ended up removing it in updates to their games, for example Mass Effect Legendary Edition. https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/mass-effect-legendary-e... Note how getting rid of Denuvo also saved about one gigabyte (!!) of disk space. Denuvo slowed some games down so much that playing online with a cracked version is conside…

They remove it because most sales are done in the first month.

Re: Denuvo Launches Nintendo Switch Emulator Protection

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post #8

The normalization of Denuvo, as well as "anti-cheat" protection that involves constant monitoring of your environment, is a fucking travesty for privacy and games. The worst part about Denuvo is that cracking it is game-specific, and there's ~1 person who is willing and able to do it (and currently isn't touching denuvo due to not being donated enough money)

That "worst part" sounds like the best part from the perspective of someone who has put a lot of time, money, and effort into their game and would like to make some kind of profit.

It's the best part for execs who think piracy cuts into legitimate game sales (it doesn't). And for those who want every single copy to come with a giant amount of bloat and spyware so that a fraction of a % of people who weren't going to give them money anyways don't get to play.

Re: Denuvo Launches Nintendo Switch Emulator Protection

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The friction in buying games these days is so low, I don't understand how this would result in more units shipped for any publisher that chooses to use this. If you're "pirating" a game, I imagine (because this is why I pirated games in the pre-Steam days) it's because you can't afford to buy it or you refuse to give the publisher/developer your money on principle. Either way, you're not a potential customer. So sure…

This has basically always been the case.

I have yet to see compelling numbers that show these systems do much of anything.

The markets most heavily served by piracy are either

1. Those completely neglected by normal distribution channels (poor countries)

2. Those who are extremely budget conscious (poor people in any country)

But it's a good sales pitch to execs to show piracy numbers and claim "Think of all the lost revenue!!!!" - when the blunt reality is that most who pirated simply don't have the means to pay for it in the first place.

The right short term answer is to heavily discount digital products for those markets (see: Steam sales) and bring the price back in line with the budget available.

The long term answer is political, and will require restructuring how digital products are made and licensed (it's time to ditch the per-copy-sold costs - they aren't the right answer for goods that have ZERO marginal cost per copy produced).

Re: Denuvo Launches Nintendo Switch Emulator Protection

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post #21
post #15

I hope Nintendo is ready for the refund requests.

That would require them to give refunds at all, the eShop currently does not do that and no one fought them on it yet. Realistically Nintendo can do whatever they want, they could take a dump in times square and people would flock to it. They've been selling broken controllers for 6 years.

I’ve always found this an interesting criticism. Switch controllers might break more often but I’ve never had a game system controller that didn’t end up with drift in the course of a year or two (and I don’t play games often.)

Re: Denuvo Launches Nintendo Switch Emulator Protection

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post #10

Denuvo "copy protection" is so universally loathed by PC gamers that several publishers have ended up removing it in updates to their games, for example Mass Effect Legendary Edition. https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/mass-effect-legendary-e... Note how getting rid of Denuvo also saved about one gigabyte (!!) of disk space. Denuvo slowed some games down so much that playing online with a cracked version is conside…

Your totally valid point aside, GPUs have cratered. There’s actually a glut of them now. The 3090ti price was recently cut in half and the rumor mill is the 40 series was over provisioned based on crypto demand which has now also cratered, so there will be a lot of stock on the market. Now is a good time to look at upgrading if you haven’t in a bit.

X070 prices are still like double what they were 5 years ago. This isn’t a crater yet. I’m not surprised they’re having difficulty moving the extremely expensive cards to non-miners, but x090Ti cards were never really about practical gaming.
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