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Post by leetcode5ucks10 »

29athrowaway wrote: post #374
osigurdson wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Kids just stay at home grinding LC all day Those kids should start their own unicorns instead of grinding LC all day. That would be a much better use of their intelligence.

After spending years grinding LeetCode... 1) they will join Meta and be a cannon fodder developer for a PHP coder that never excelled at those puzzles, Mark Zuckerberg. 2) a Github Copilot user will wipe the floor with them. Being good at LeetCode puzzles will be as practical as being able to mentally calculate square roots. Just a party trick for low rating TV shows.

Doesn't matter.

When I joined CS degree I also thought like you did.

Now looking at insane competition, the kids who can't write a real program if their life depends upon it, constantly getting better internship and job offers than me, I believe I was wrong.

No one cares.

People who interview are also likely Leetcode kids. So they will ask some obscure question from 14th page of Leetcode to flex, so the probability of passing is almost proportional to amount of time you grind.

If I have a chance to go back to year 1, I focus on Leetcode. Fundamentals be damned.

In this industry no one has an incentive to care about efficiency. If they did, we wouldn't be gambling with right candidate answering an obscuring question from some 10+ page of Leetcode or Hackerrank.

Now someone from outside India can reply to this with their usual justifications. To be clear, I don't hate DSA questions. Just pointing out as your leetcodes get harder, you tend to select people who do leetcode whole day than those who are good at DSA and also good at programming.

Edit: and yes, "if you're good at DSA you should be able to answer the obscure question". Dude obscure question will be LC hard or upper end of medium. The kid who does Leetcode 3 hours a day already seen the question and remembers the answer too, and there are n > 10 kids like that.

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Post by webmobdev »

redditor98654 wrote: post #381
webmobdev wrote: post #365

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While I agree that for-profit hospitals do have a lot of money-minded doctors (I hesitate to call them corrupt, as desire to earn more is normal in every field), I disagree with you completely that from the healthcare point of view India is a negative. India has excellent healthcare facilities and very good doctors (in the city) - and most importantly it is affordable for the upper-middle class even without insurance…

Personal anecdote, but most of my wife’s friends in India have themselves opted to go with a c-section. Mainly to avoid a tough labor and be able to plan ahead. My wife gave birth naturally here in the US where it is not an option unless medically necessary. In India patients can choose it seems and doctors allow it because it is a higher bill for them as well.

Yes, this seems to be becoming common too as a perception has been generated that it is a "minor surgery". One of my relative too opted for C-section because someone close to her frightened her that natural childbirth is horribly painful and really bad experience. At no point did the doctor tried to dissuade her from having a c-section or explain to her the potential danger to her and her baby's health if she underwent it.

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Post by [deleted] »

LZ_Khan wrote: post #247
dxbydt wrote: post #26

In the early 1990s when I came here, the prevailing wisdom was that its categorically better to immigrate to the US from India if you get a chance. India was too far back in the tech space, too much bureaucracy, corruption, red-tape etc etc... In the 2020s, the consensus is quite mixed. A lot of people I personally worked with, who successfully got their visas and green cards, have given it all up and gone straight b…

Is that why my LeetCode ranking is always so depressingly abysmal? My solutions are always bottom 25% of speed and space usage, and the pass rate for some of their questions are way higher than my average.

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Post by milchek »

anukin wrote: post #135
dxbydt wrote: post #26

In the early 1990s when I came here, the prevailing wisdom was that its categorically better to immigrate to the US from India if you get a chance. India was too far back in the tech space, too much bureaucracy, corruption, red-tape etc etc... In the 2020s, the consensus is quite mixed. A lot of people I personally worked with, who successfully got their visas and green cards, have given it all up and gone straight b…

Even though it can be agreed that coming back to India is a good option for most many Indians, it is also to be noted that Indian political games within Indian orgs make it super hard to do anything. IMO the only reason to go back to India should be to start on your own with your trusted friends. If you think you can work in India and contribute positively think again.

Genuinely curious what Indian political games within Indian orgs means? Are they vastly different from politics and culture in western orgs?

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Post by namaria »

bakuninsbart wrote: post #397
MisterMower wrote: post #362

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And then the sea levels will rise to where Mount Everest will become beachfront property. No one is safe anywhere, climate change will destroy everything.

Impact Lab has a pretty cool map of temperature projections.[0] I don't think see level rise will impact humanity as a whole that much. - The dutch for example have been successfully fighting the tides for centuries. It is certainly a problem in this context that the majority of the world lives in coastal cities, but generally there will be time to either build dams or evacuate. Extreme weather events are much harder…

Fighting the tides is one thing when sea levels have been stable for millennia. Now we're heading towards meters of difference in average levels by the end of the century. I fully expect most of the Netherlands and most coastal metropolises to be underwater by late 21st century.

Re: H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

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Post by namaria »

leetcode5ucks10 wrote: post #401
29athrowaway wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After spending years grinding LeetCode... 1) they will join Meta and be a cannon fodder developer for a PHP coder that never excelled at those puzzles, Mark Zuckerberg. 2) a Github Copilot user will wipe the floor with them. Being good at LeetCode puzzles will be as practical as being able to mentally calculate square roots. Just a party trick for low rating TV shows.

Doesn't matter. When I joined CS degree I also thought like you did. Now looking at insane competition, the kids who can't write a real program if their life depends upon it, constantly getting better internship and job offers than me, I believe I was wrong. No one cares. People who interview are also likely Leetcode kids. So they will ask some obscure question from 14th page of Leetcode to flex, so the probability o…

All of this was fueled by zero cost credit, tidal waves of VC money and the very early stage of monetizing the web. Soon the world wide web will be a thing of the past and most economic value will have been captured by corporate walled gardens and this job marked will fall in line.

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Post by namaria »

pastor_bob wrote: post #223
dxbydt wrote: post #26

In the early 1990s when I came here, the prevailing wisdom was that its categorically better to immigrate to the US from India if you get a chance. India was too far back in the tech space, too much bureaucracy, corruption, red-tape etc etc... In the 2020s, the consensus is quite mixed. A lot of people I personally worked with, who successfully got their visas and green cards, have given it all up and gone straight b…

> Interviews over there are insanely competitive. Why is it then that it's common understanding that Indian teams are usually bad? Why are they so difficult to deal with and why do they produce bad code?

Because, somehow, being good at contrived puzzles don't mean squat when it comes to delivering actual value in production.

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Post by namaria »

tintedfireglass wrote: post #358
jitix wrote: post #208

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This is something that is really concerning to me. If everybody is pushed towards a STEM job the market becomes saturated affecting salaries (and the associated "prestige" in Indian society). And to top it off young children are forced to give up their childhood to pursue Byjus and other scams that prey on the parents' emotions. I grew up in the professional class in India and a lot of thinking is plain irrational an…

how in the world is working in Infosys or Wipro prestigious. you are just a robot doing some repetitive task for some random dude on the other side of the world

Because it's compared to lower classes sweeping the streets or dumpster diving.

Re: H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

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Post by yourapostasy »

topspin wrote: post #240
going_ham wrote: post #2

Does it mean it costed the US of potential opportunities? I don't think it made any difference in the US. But it surely helped in his home country. While we are at it, what do you think of current visa issue in the USA? For a long time, I thought it was difficult only to people of Asian countries to migrate to US, but turns out it is equally difficult for any other nations. In the long term, does it make a difference…

> But it surely helped in his home country. Likely. The absorption of young, motivated people by the US is a major loss for their origin nations. Why this never seems to be a concern for anyone involved is the proverbial gorilla in the room.

> Why this never seems to be a concern for anyone involved is the proverbial gorilla in the room.

Young, motivated, smart, driven, creative, innovative, persistent…hmm, all the right ingredients to successfully challenge the existing status quo in many nations.

If you were part of the elite in those nations, what’s not to love about the current setup where the US not only absorbs the best and brightest who have a shot at upending your sinecure but even if those best of the best return to your nation, they are usually turned towards industrial rather than sociopolitical leadership pursuits that would bring “disruptive innovation” to your sphere?

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