People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms

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Post by lladnar » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 3:13 AM UTC

People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms
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Post by donkarma » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:15 AM UTC

despite cloudflare claiming to be neutral it has deplatformed in the past and can do so again

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Post by gagand » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:16 AM UTC

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Post by bogantech » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:17 AM UTC

donkarma wrote: post #2

despite cloudflare claiming to be neutral it has deplatformed in the past and can do so again

But shouldn't

Re: People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms

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Post by api » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:19 AM UTC

That site is much worse than this article makes it sound (and it sounds bad). Here's a little more:

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236...

Re: People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms

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Post by xupybd » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:21 AM UTC

Kiwi Farms is a horrible abomination. One of the worst cesspits on the internet. They were sharing videos of the Christchurch massacre right after it happened. As a New Zealander it felt doubly disrespectful that they'd share that and use the name Kiwi.

All of that said I respect Cloudflare staying neutral on this. Free speech is only free if we defend the speech we hate the most. Free speech has a bad name today but if we de-platform everything that is disagreeable we'll squash our own freedoms along with it.

One issue I have is that much of what happens there breaks laws. Cloudflare shouldn't have to step in to deal with that. Law enforcement should have the reach to bring criminals to justice offline and online.

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Post by binbashthefash » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:25 AM UTC

bogantech wrote: post #4

donkarma wrote: post #2

despite cloudflare claiming to be neutral it has deplatformed in the past and can do so again

But shouldn't

So it should replatform others to be fair I guess, otherwise it would seem to be favorable treatment for kiwi farms

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Post by corndoge » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:25 AM UTC

FTA:

> People on Twitter, as well as Sorrenti, claimed that the official Cloudflare account hid replies on its tweets related to dropping Kiwi Farms, and then deleted tweets that were ratioed by people talking about the campaign. Cloudflare’s Twitter account normally posted at least daily before this week, but hasn’t tweeted in four days, as of writing.

What is the meaning of “ratioed” in this sentence?

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Post by ars » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:26 AM UTC

donkarma wrote: post #2

despite cloudflare claiming to be neutral it has deplatformed in the past and can do so again

I was all set to write a comment about how I'm not OK with private companies deciding who can exist on the internet - but then I remembered that all CloudFlare does is caching and DDOS protection.

Without CloudFlare the website would still be accessible on the Internet. And to me that makes a big difference.

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Post by xupybd » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:27 AM UTC

corndoge wrote: post #8

FTA: > People on Twitter, as well as Sorrenti, claimed that the official Cloudflare account hid replies on its tweets related to dropping Kiwi Farms, and then deleted tweets that were ratioed by people talking about the campaign. Cloudflare’s Twitter account normally posted at least daily before this week, but hasn’t tweeted in four days, as of writing. What is the meaning of “ratioed” in this sentence?

Ratioed means the ratio of comments to like is very high. This normally means more people disagree than agree.