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Re: Show HN: Pornpen.ai – AI-Generated Porn

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Post by cat_plus_plus »

juancampa wrote: post #189
cat_plus_plus wrote: post #176

Any guy who is not a psychopath deserves a real woman who is going to be nice to him without making unreasonable demands and vice versa. Instead, we have a huge number of leftover young men whose best option is computer generated porn and who sometimes lose it and shoot up a place. And a huge number of women who give up on having a family because popular guys always move to someone hotter. I am not suggesting restric…

I don't think anyone deserves anything just for not being a psychopath.

Nobody deserves not to starve, but we want to organize society so that starving is uncommon.

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Post by girvo »

nikkwong wrote: post #194
postalrat wrote: post #51

Eventually this and similar technology will be able to generate unlimited porn of all types. Including CP. Should or even could it be made illegal? To me that kinda feels like if it was made illegal then you are basically acting as the thought police. Edit: are people just uncomfortable talking about this or do they think downvoting is going to somehow prevent it?

The question of whether or not machine generated CP is ethical or not is a confusing one to me, since the crux of problem of CP is that it's violating the rights of a child. If you get rid of that fact, CP becomes a 'victimless crime', in a sense, and it becomes hard to pinpoint what the actual perpetration is. (Ignoring the fact that a CP model has to be trained on real images, which destroys this argument outright,…

I don’t think you can ignore the fact that the model would have to be trained on child sexual abuse material, though. That’s pretty important.

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Post by Alex7845 »

nikkwong wrote: post #194
postalrat wrote: post #51

Eventually this and similar technology will be able to generate unlimited porn of all types. Including CP. Should or even could it be made illegal? To me that kinda feels like if it was made illegal then you are basically acting as the thought police. Edit: are people just uncomfortable talking about this or do they think downvoting is going to somehow prevent it?

The question of whether or not machine generated CP is ethical or not is a confusing one to me, since the crux of problem of CP is that it's violating the rights of a child. If you get rid of that fact, CP becomes a 'victimless crime', in a sense, and it becomes hard to pinpoint what the actual perpetration is. (Ignoring the fact that a CP model has to be trained on real images, which destroys this argument outright,…

>(Ignoring the fact that a CP model has to be trained on real images).

that's not how this tech works.

Did you think actual guinea pigs had to be trained to do household chores for these pictures to be generated? (dailywrong.com/new-course-teaches-guinea-pigs-household-chores/)

I had a lot of fun creating pictures of llamas in space. I'm pretty sure no llamas have ever walked on the moon.

Re: Show HN: Pornpen.ai – AI-Generated Porn

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Post by anigbrowl »

jancsika wrote: post #113
retrac wrote: post #56

I had some fun with StyleGAN a couple years ago. I should probably have written this up, or something. Some others I showed it too thought I should. But I never took it too serious. I was just bored over a couple weekends when I had access to some beefy GPUs. And y'know, it's quasi-porno. I opted for dudes not gals. Part personal preference, partly because I happened to get my hands on an enormous dataset of hot shir…

In your example link here: https://i.imgur.com/bS7ERC6.jpg you show one fellow with a smartphone stabbed through the chest, plus a headphone cord fused into his forearm veins. When you "let it churn away for a week," which of the following is more likely: 1. Smartphone Stab Wound Guys decrease in likelihood 2. More realistic-looking smartphone stabs In either case it doesn't exactly inspire confidence in self-driving…

Sounds like it might be time for another instalment in the franchise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetsuo:_The_Iron_Man

Re: Show HN: Pornpen.ai – AI-Generated Porn

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Post by cat_plus_plus »

Aeolun wrote: post #186
cat_plus_plus wrote: post #176

Any guy who is not a psychopath deserves a real woman who is going to be nice to him without making unreasonable demands and vice versa. Instead, we have a huge number of leftover young men whose best option is computer generated porn and who sometimes lose it and shoot up a place. And a huge number of women who give up on having a family because popular guys always move to someone hotter. I am not suggesting restric…

I suggest both men and women of that kind work on themselves a bit first before trying for a relationship. Our society has gotten to a point where it’s become acceptable to not do that, but that’s really where the issues are coming from. To be fair, that just means we have different issues now.

Why do they have to if their grandparents could generally get someone of their own caliber? Not always glamorous, but beats watching porn alone.

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Post by mc32 »

nikkwong wrote: post #194
postalrat wrote: post #51

Eventually this and similar technology will be able to generate unlimited porn of all types. Including CP. Should or even could it be made illegal? To me that kinda feels like if it was made illegal then you are basically acting as the thought police. Edit: are people just uncomfortable talking about this or do they think downvoting is going to somehow prevent it?

The question of whether or not machine generated CP is ethical or not is a confusing one to me, since the crux of problem of CP is that it's violating the rights of a child. If you get rid of that fact, CP becomes a 'victimless crime', in a sense, and it becomes hard to pinpoint what the actual perpetration is. (Ignoring the fact that a CP model has to be trained on real images, which destroys this argument outright,…

Question is does it reduce demand from the real world or does it serve as demand multiplier in the real physical world?

Re: Show HN: Pornpen.ai – AI-Generated Porn

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Post by Barrin92 »

kbenson wrote: post #172
moomoo11 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be a cause for the models on TikTok to unionize because that’s taking their jobs away.

The really smart models will put together an AI to generate images of them using only their own images as training data, and then they can sit back and profit. Eventually we'll be watching generated personalities on twitch playing video games, and then we'll know the end is nigh. There is no infinity, eventually the snake chokes on its own tail...

>Eventually we'll be watching generated personalities on twitch playing video games

that won't happen because the entire value proposition is in the personal connection to the streamer. (the modern derogatory term is 'parasocial relationship').

just like nobody watches chess computers or starcraft bots play nobody is going to watch bots play games. in fact to stay on the topic of the thread, people are making millions on onlyfans because they realized chatting with their viewers is much more valuable than generic pornography.

Re: Show HN: Pornpen.ai – AI-Generated Porn

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Post by nikkwong »

Alex7845 wrote: post #203
nikkwong wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question of whether or not machine generated CP is ethical or not is a confusing one to me, since the crux of problem of CP is that it's violating the rights of a child. If you get rid of that fact, CP becomes a 'victimless crime', in a sense, and it becomes hard to pinpoint what the actual perpetration is. (Ignoring the fact that a CP model has to be trained on real images, which destroys this argument outright,…

>(Ignoring the fact that a CP model has to be trained on real images). that's not how this tech works. Did you think actual guinea pigs had to be trained to do household chores for these pictures to be generated? (dailywrong.com/new-course-teaches-guinea-pigs-household-chores/) I had a lot of fun creating pictures of llamas in space. I'm pretty sure no llamas have ever walked on the moon.

I think it is how the tech works; though. The model knows what a guinea pig looks like, and it knows what household chores looks like, so it can concatenate the two. I don't think the model knows how children look like unclothed, and I don't think it can posit that by looking at nude human adults. But I could be very incorrect there; and these techniques will certainly evolve over time.
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