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Re: H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

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Post by outworlder »

manuelabeledo wrote: post #163
hunterb123 wrote: post #129

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> The system is unbelievably cruel. People die (or see their loved ones die) before they get greencards. People die before many things, that's not really relevant and it's just an emotional statement. Compare the length and rate to other countries for an actual assessment. A lot countries I've looked into take 5-10 years for citizenship, the US is 14.5 months on average. I'm talking about the amount of immigrants tak…

> A lot countries I've looked into take 5-10 years for citizenship, the US is 14.5 months on average. Year 6 here in the US, need to wait another 5 for the chance of becoming a citizen. What’s that path you are talking about?

An imaginary one.

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Post by outworlder »

hunterb123 wrote: post #145
nine_zeros wrote: post #137

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> Most countries I've looked into take up to 10 years. The set of countries you want to compare with are the countries that claim they want to welcome immigrants. You don't want to compare with countries that you like but are hostile. America claims to be immigrant friendly but compared to other immigrant friendly nations, the process is brutal and eats away entire lives. > A lot countries I've looked into take 5-10…

No 14.5 months is the average for naturalization. https://www.boundless.com/immigration-resources/how-long-doe... Total time is 18.5-24 months to wrap up everything, but the 14.5 months you're able to be in the US which is what matters. How does that compare to other countries? What's your ideal country that has the best immigration times? - edit - Green card from nil is also just a year or so on average, in which ca…

> How Long Does It Take to Get U.S. Citizenship After Applying?

That's what the link is talking about.

AFTER you qualify, that's the time it takes for just the paperwork to go through. The easiest path to qualify is marriage, which takes about 3 years - 90 days. That also has a similar processing time for the paperwork.

Please, go learn a bit more about the system. You don't know anything about the subject.

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Post by outworlder »

thisoneworks wrote: post #238
cardine wrote: post #158

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The parent tweet is someone from India. Current green card wait times are approximately 10 years[1] right now. Given the length of the green card wait time you usually need some other visa (such as H1B) that will allow you to still live in the USA before you can actually apply for green card. Currently the H1B lottery approves less than half of the people who apply. So if you are trying to immigrate from India you ar…

Better source: 54 years for eb2/eb3. And that was 2019 backlog. Covid should've added half a decade more https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/immigratio...

Which means that, if your child a newborn (but not born in the US), they won't qualify. The process has to be completed before their 21st birthday.

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Post by capybara_2020 »

dxbydt wrote: post #26

In the early 1990s when I came here, the prevailing wisdom was that its categorically better to immigrate to the US from India if you get a chance. India was too far back in the tech space, too much bureaucracy, corruption, red-tape etc etc... In the 2020s, the consensus is quite mixed. A lot of people I personally worked with, who successfully got their visas and green cards, have given it all up and gone straight b…

A lot of that rings true. Other than healthcare.

It can be a nightmare finding a good doctor in India. The way most doctors behave can be insulting plus a lot of them are truly incompetent or corrupt. There are no real consequences to any of that. Most private hospitals are out to maximize how much they are earn from you and unnecessary procedures are the norm.

As just one data point, check out the ratio of natural births to c-sections in India in private hospitals.

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Post by smeagull »

dxbydt wrote: post #26

In the early 1990s when I came here, the prevailing wisdom was that its categorically better to immigrate to the US from India if you get a chance. India was too far back in the tech space, too much bureaucracy, corruption, red-tape etc etc... In the 2020s, the consensus is quite mixed. A lot of people I personally worked with, who successfully got their visas and green cards, have given it all up and gone straight b…

I know people in tech who have gone back to Pakistan rather than stay in the US.

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Post by User23 »

outworlder wrote: post #342
User23 wrote: post #270

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That's not actually true. H-1B is a non-immigrant visa. The confusion is somewhat understandable though. The reason why is that the H-1B program allows a migrant who does not currently qualify for an immigrant visa to work in the USA while they try to get one rather than having to wait at home. It's kind of like hanging out in a fancy restaurant's bar in hopes that they'll be able to get you a table.

What? No. H1B is a dual-intent visa. If it was strictly a non-immigrant visa, then you cannot get a green card. Ever. You need some other type of visa that's either an immigrant visa(like marriage) or some other dual-intent visa. That's one thing that many americans don't understand. "He's lived in the US for 50 years, why didn't he become a citizen?!" Because, for most people, they have no path.

That’s not what the US government says: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/immigration/h1b and https://www.cbp.gov/travel/international-visitors/visa-waive...

I have observed that this misunderstanding is widespread, for what it’s worth. Dual intent merely means intending to immigrate isn’t a disqualification, but that still requires getting some sort of additional immigrant visa.

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Post by tintedfireglass »

jitix wrote: post #208
hello_moto wrote: post #157

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> 500+ LC. Kids just stay at home grinding LC all day. There are dedicated youtube channels in Hindi & other regional lang telling you how to dynamic program, backtrack, div & conquer, two pointer....its a whole different scene. That's because it is a deeply rooted culture/attitude of the people in India (or other developing countries): intellectual one-upmanship (i.e.: my "brain" is bigger than yours). Nobody wants…

This is something that is really concerning to me. If everybody is pushed towards a STEM job the market becomes saturated affecting salaries (and the associated "prestige" in Indian society). And to top it off young children are forced to give up their childhood to pursue Byjus and other scams that prey on the parents' emotions. I grew up in the professional class in India and a lot of thinking is plain irrational an…

how in the world is working in Infosys or Wipro prestigious. you are just a robot doing some repetitive task for some random dude on the other side of the world

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Post by zymhan »

cromka wrote: post #89
okasaki wrote: post #72

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The UK isn't thriving - 18% inflation, low salaries (except in the money laundering industry), bad and very expensive housing, no infrastructure investment, etc.

> no infrastructure investment I think one could say anything about UK these days, but lack of infrastructure investment? Seriously? UK compared to the US, it's like 50 years of difference. And I'd argue it's still ahead of most of the old EU, too.

Indeed, as if the Elizabeth line hadn't just opened up this year!

It took them a while, and tons of money, but they made it happen. Which is more than most of the US can say.

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Post by zymhan »

edmcnulty101 wrote: post #343
eldaisfish wrote: post #60

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be careful generalising india because anything that one can claim, the opposite is also true. A major reason countries like the USA and the UK flourish is stability. Stability is not something india has and that is a very difficult thing to put a price on. Indian capital markets are not transparent though that is less of an issue for startups. What should be telling is the number of "Indian" startups that are registe…

I don't know how stable the USA would be if all billion Indian people came to North America and Europe.

Who said anything about that? Besides Viktor Orban.
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