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Is there hope for Linux on smartphones? [video]

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Re: Is there hope for Linux on smartphones? [video]

#132

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GNU is not a boolean value. One can use portions of it without throwing away everything they use.

Fair point, but I was responding to "GNU runs on many OSs", saying that GNU is actually part of the OSs (and not something that runs on top of it), regardless of how much GNU there is in any particular OS.

That's not really true, in broad strokes. To my knowledge, Linux distributions are the only place where GNU forms of core part of the operating system, whereas it is frequently installed as an optional component on top of, say, Solaris, AIX, or a BSD. Termux, amusingly enough, marks a return to this on top of Android on top of Linux.

Re: Is there hope for Linux on smartphones? [video]

#133
You can strap Raspberry to your phone via USB and you have 100% Linux phone without restrictions. Communication happens via Phone's USB-tethering and Raspberry's Internet-via-USB (and bVNC). OTG-phone can also power the Raspberry.

I used this setup a lot, but nowadays Termux with X11-server is good enough.

Most use nowadays is photo editing with GIMP. You can gain excellent dexterity with bVNC with time.

Re: Is there hope for Linux on smartphones? [video]

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Shoot raw then import into darktable. This seems like the simplest way to get there until more infrastructure is developed.

If that's the simplest way to get a decent photo, then Linux phones are going to have a very limited audience.

It's how photographers work. Beginners use management apps as well.

Re: Is there hope for Linux on smartphones? [video]

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post #90

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Shoot raw then import into darktable. This seems like the simplest way to get there until more infrastructure is developed.

If that's the simplest way to get a decent photo, then Linux phones are going to have a very limited audience.

True.

I know some photography basics, how to use DSLR/mirrorless, and even how to use handheld lightmeters. The reason we use smartphones is simplicity and convenience: take pictures of family on the beach, apply some editing (Snapseed/VSCO/etc), then share them to social medias. All is done on single device.

Not everyone is a enthusiast who is willing to carry camera and laptop eveywhere :)

Re: Is there hope for Linux on smartphones? [video]

#138

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Who cares about the google user space apps? There are viable open source alternatives for all of them. It's like saying Linux is not open source because Redhat bundles proprietary software with their distro.

This could have been a reasonable analogy if a very significant chunk of applications "for Linux" only worked (or offered its full functionality) if you had Red Hat's proprietary addons installed.

FDroid. Period.

Re: Is there hope for Linux on smartphones? [video]

#139

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most of the user space tools originated from GNU (such as gcc), linux really just brought the kernel.

Just? It’s 28 million lines of code, the world’s largest software project

Chromium is bigger than that.

Re: Is there hope for Linux on smartphones? [video]

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Nokia had Linux on their smartphone until Microsoft bought them and stopped everything, they even shut down the app store. The OS was called MeeGo. Part of the Nokia team however started their own company called Jolla and still produce smartphones running Linux, they call their OS Sailfish. (ignoring the fact that Android also uses the Linux kernel). The problem with alternative phone OS:es is that in the country I l…

Sailfish could have been great, but Jolla apparently tried to overextend themselves making hardware and software for their products and almost died trying. It's a shame because the Jolla phone had a swappable back part and could have things like a slideout keyboard that looked really sweet. Now they're on the enterprise and government contracting grind and market their OS on their site with all the bs enterprisey jargon, with Sailfish as a community/open-source driven project being mostly an afterthought. They also have a very limited number of devices that can run android compatibility, and you need to pay for a license.

It's a shame because their UI is the only decent thing in the world of Linux phones that isn't an utter travesty that just tries to bend the Linux desktop into being a "mobile OS" that runs like absolute shit and feels really awkward to use. But the UI on Sailfish is of course the proprietary parts aside from the android emulation.

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