FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop
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FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop
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Re: FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop
#2> wifibox essentially spins up an Alpine Linux VM using FreeBSD's bhyve virtualization technology, and allows you to passthrough your machine's wireless card
Jesus christ.
Re: FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop
#3> wifibox essentially spins up an Alpine Linux VM using FreeBSD's bhyve virtualization technology, and allows you to passthrough your machine's wireless card Jesus christ.
Sounds sub-optimal, I'm thinkng back to linux wifi support on random laptops 10+ years ago and it was also quite bad.
Re: FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop
#4> wifibox essentially spins up an Alpine Linux VM using FreeBSD's bhyve virtualization technology, and allows you to passthrough your machine's wireless card Jesus christ.
It's easier than writing a driver for FreeBSD yourself, I suppose, although I'd probably just get a USB Wi-Fi dongle instead of worry about walking into a meeting and my Wi-Fi driver VM crashing :)
(or, just run Linux and run FreeBSD in a VM, but that's no way to support a niche operating system...)
Re: FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop
#5> wifibox essentially spins up an Alpine Linux VM using FreeBSD's bhyve virtualization technology, and allows you to passthrough your machine's wireless card Jesus christ.
Sounds sub-optimal, I'm thinkng back to linux wifi support on random laptops 10+ years ago and it was also quite bad.
I think it mostly depended on the vendor, like today, where Broadcom and Realtek suck a lot, Mediatek and Qualcomm a little and Intel/Atheros work just fine. I remember using Ubuntu 6.10 or so with an Intel card out of the box.
Re: FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop
#6If this is something they get dialed in, I’ll buy several for sure.
Love the framework idea and want to support, but have very little use case right now.
Re: FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop
#7Man, FreeBSD really needs some driver love...
* No Suspend/Resume? Linux has solved this for years, I have not come across a laptop in the last 10 years that had trouble with s2r or s2d (but I guess that there might be a few that don't fully support it, I mainly tested Dell laptops)
* WiFi driver and Ethernet over USB-C both highly unstable? That's an Intel chipset, those are usually the more stable ones (at least on Linux/Windows), and the wire ethernet is not a cheapo chipset either (Realtek)
* Bluetooth not supported???
* microSD slot on USB-C docking station doesn't work? This is just SPI, how hard can that be...
I wonder if there is any laptop from the last 5 years where FreeBSD fully works. I keep trying FreeBSD on and off on my two Laptops but I had similar experiences (plus I'm not used to the FreeBSD way of doing things). I'm ready to jump through some hoops but in my case, FreeBSD was always removed after a weekend or so, and replaced with Linux where everything just works.
I used to tinker a lot to get Linux and BSD running on hardware, but these days I kinda expect most things to just work out of the box ...
I really wish FreeBSD would get some more developer backing
Re: FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop
#8> wifibox essentially spins up an Alpine Linux VM using FreeBSD's bhyve virtualization technology, and allows you to passthrough your machine's wireless card Jesus christ.
> Jesus christ.
exactly.
this is the kind of bs i like to call out when i see the usual freebsd desktop thread.
it's going to work mostly okay-ish, as long as you don't mine some abominations like that running on your systems in the background.
this really reminds me my linux experiences circa 2005-2006 (ndiswrapper for wifi cards, do people remember that?).
Re: FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop
#9> wifibox essentially spins up an Alpine Linux VM using FreeBSD's bhyve virtualization technology, and allows you to passthrough your machine's wireless card Jesus christ.
> Jesus christ. exactly. this is the kind of bs i like to call out when i see the usual freebsd desktop thread. it's going to work mostly okay-ish, as long as you don't mine some abominations like that running on your systems in the background. this really reminds me my linux experiences circa 2005-2006 (ndiswrapper for wifi cards, do people remember that?).
Totally agree. Wonder the use case why they don’t run Linux and put FreeBSD in a VM where everything would work perfectly.
Re: FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop
#10Nice update. Hopefully the work being done to update wifi support on FreeBSD will come to something and something like wifibox won't be necessary.