Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar
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Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar
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#2This looks like it could be Elon Musk's next invention.
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#3This aircraft was flying using the Coandă effect [1] (also see video [2] at 1:38), it was aerodynamically unstable and required active control. It was definitely ahead of its time. It would be great if some of those "crazy 40s-60s concept vehicles" could be revived with the modern technology.
Video in the linked wikipedia page is too short, this one is better [2].
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#4As a non-engineer, it seems like we could solve a lot of the issues with these things today.
1) Active control is standard fare on a ton of places these days - it's 'normal' for a military jet to be aerodynamically unstable.
2) 2000lb of combined thrust without melting the gauges? Check - better insulation, jet efficiency, and electric power all can help here.
3) Funding? C'mon Elon - you know you want one!
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#5This aircraft was flying using the Coandă effect [1] (also see video [2] at 1:38), it was aerodynamically unstable and required active control. It was definitely ahead of its time. It would be great if some of those "crazy 40s-60s concept vehicles" could be revived with the modern technology. Video in the linked wikipedia page is too short, this one is better [2]. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coand%C4%83_effect 2…
> It would be great if some of those "crazy 40s-60s concept vehicles" could be revived with the modern technology.
Yep, i wish some collector type (similar to car collecting Leno) spent some money building modern versions of at least some of the most successful/feasible models from the "wheel of VTOL misfortune" https://vtol.org/vstol/wheel.htm . Back then it seems to have been some kind of "Jurassic explosion" of VTOL innovation, and hopefully these days we're having some small renaissance of it.
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#6I'm disappointed there isn't one at the Aviation Musuem in Ottawa. Though I'd like to see a full Arrow as well :(
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#7Service ceiling:
10,000 ft (3,000 m) (estimated)
3 ft (0.91 m) (actual)Re: Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar
#8Tom Stanton on youtube was able to get a Coanda effect quadcopter off the ground a few years back.
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#9This looks like it could be Elon Musk's next invention.
If nothing else we can be sure he'd market it as his invention.
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#10This aircraft was flying using the Coandă effect [1] (also see video [2] at 1:38), it was aerodynamically unstable and required active control. It was definitely ahead of its time. It would be great if some of those "crazy 40s-60s concept vehicles" could be revived with the modern technology. Video in the linked wikipedia page is too short, this one is better [2]. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coand%C4%83_effect 2…
> It would be great if some of those "crazy 40s-60s concept vehicles" could be revived with the modern technology. Yep, i wish some collector type (similar to car collecting Leno) spent some money building modern versions of at least some of the most successful/feasible models from the "wheel of VTOL misfortune" https://vtol.org/vstol/wheel.htm . Back then it seems to have been some kind of "Jurassic explosion" of VT…
Someone might build scale model drones of a few of those. But manned aircraft would be suicide weapons outside of a carefully controlled flight test program. There are just so many failure modes.