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Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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Post by croes »

potamic wrote: post #28

Absolutely zero reason to say "who was terminated for ineffective leadership and poor performance". That context is not at all relevant to this matter and comes off as an attempt to distract from the subject in matter. And it doesn't bode well for employees to see their CEO mud slinging at former employees like that. You could be next! Besides, surely they know such messages eventually reach the public eye and give p…

To provide a motive for the false claims?

Doesn't mean they are false, just a reason why to mention the reason of the termination.

Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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Post by kbelder »

eis wrote: post #16

On the one hand we have a legend with impressive track record that is trying to bring to light serious issues at a large company and he has not much to gain but a lot to lose by making false accusations. On the other hand we have the Twitter CEO who does not have any comparable track record and has all to gain by trying to deflect and a lot to lose by admiting that the company under him has serious issues. He does ha…

Facebook should be avoided, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as Twitter. Twitter exemplifies the amplification of an irrational mob more than any other social media platform.

Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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Post by na85 »

alksjdalkj wrote: post #35
na85 wrote: post #29

Lots of people are rushing to defend Mudge, and maybe it's warranted, but being an alumnus of cDc and l0pht doesn't make one a competent executive. It is possible for someone to be a great hacker but a mediocre manager. Twitter's taken a lot of body blows recently and Parag is obviously trying to motivate his people. He's not necessarily lying even if it's a rather unprofessional way to speak I'll of someone who's be…

> Lots of people are rushing to defend Mudge, and maybe it's warranted, but being an alumnus of cDc and l0pht doesn't make one a competent executive. He was also a DARPA PM, which definitely requires management/executive skills.

>He was also a DARPA PM, which definitely requires management/executive skills.

Meh. I've worked in government and disagree with this assessment.

Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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Post by cryptonector »

remus wrote: post #46
potamic wrote: post #28

Absolutely zero reason to say "who was terminated for ineffective leadership and poor performance". That context is not at all relevant to this matter and comes off as an attempt to distract from the subject in matter. And it doesn't bode well for employees to see their CEO mud slinging at former employees like that. You could be next! Besides, surely they know such messages eventually reach the public eye and give p…

> Absolutely zero reason to say "who was terminated for ineffective leadership and poor performance". That context is not at all relevant to this matter and comes off as an attempt to distract from the subject in matter. While it is distasteful I think it is also relevant. If twitter have an actual reason for firing him they'll want to make it clear, so that it doesn't look like they got rid of him to try and sweep h…

Yeah, so you say "fired for cause" and don't go into the details.

Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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Post by mruniverse »

na85 wrote: post #29

Lots of people are rushing to defend Mudge, and maybe it's warranted, but being an alumnus of cDc and l0pht doesn't make one a competent executive. It is possible for someone to be a great hacker but a mediocre manager. Twitter's taken a lot of body blows recently and Parag is obviously trying to motivate his people. He's not necessarily lying even if it's a rather unprofessional way to speak I'll of someone who's be…

It speaks to Parag's character that he's "trying to motivate his people" by doing it in such an unprofessional way.

As far as the "great hacker but a mediocre manager" thing, same can be said of Parag... "good CTO but mediocre CEO".

Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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Post by Terretta »

secondcoming wrote: post #56
gizmo wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter locks accounts for verification and then turns around and sells the phone number used to verify the account to advertisers. This kind of behavior can only happen in thoroughly rotten companies.

What? I’ve worked in adtech for years and have seen a user’s phone number

> I’ve worked in adtech for years and have seen a user’s phone number

Freudian slip much?

Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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Post by Terretta »

maxk42 wrote: post #21

Is a CEO publicly accusing someone publicly of "ineffective leadership and poor performance" a libelous statement?

It’s 100% true though:

He was ineffective at keeping quiet about security problems to governance parties, and performed poorly at persuading peers not reporting to him to fix things they weren’t incentivized on.

Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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Post by twelve40 »

mc32 wrote: post #32
potamic wrote: post #28

Absolutely zero reason to say "who was terminated for ineffective leadership and poor performance". That context is not at all relevant to this matter and comes off as an attempt to distract from the subject in matter. And it doesn't bode well for employees to see their CEO mud slinging at former employees like that. You could be next! Besides, surely they know such messages eventually reach the public eye and give p…

Doesn't HR usually filter messages so as to leave no meat for any possible wrongful termination litigation or libelous tort?

Not if they did the PIP and everything, collected evidence to cover their ass, and now have the ability to use this in what's already a very public lawsuit.
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