That is what people voted for...
No they didn’t.
More people voted against the conservatives than voted for them, but due to the first past the post system they got a massive majority in Parliament and can do whatever they want.
Collapse of emergency healthcare in England may be costing 500 lives every week
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(Not) Luckily the US healthcare system is already collapsing without social medicine, so it’s not a great talking point. Staffing and supply shortages paint a bleak picture over the next few years.
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#13Canada is having the same issue with 20hr waits in the emergency room and others being rejected outright
https://globalnews.ca/news/9066662/emergency-rooms-canada-bi...
I’ve heard a big part is all the doctors have been going on vacation all at once now that COVID is largely over, after not taking them for two years. They don’t have enough staff to cover even partial shortages.
That plus the elephant in the room of paying nurses/doctors more to keep them in Canada is always an issue.
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#14That is what people voted for...
I don’t buy that explanation. Democracy turned out to be easily manipulatable with large sums of money and media control. At this point, an average person can’t have much of an affect on how government is acting. Very few people can take a day off to protest, and even if they do, protests tend to be meaningless too. I’m not saying that average person is blameless but most of the fault lies with the ruling classes.
>Democracy turned out to be easily manipulatable with large sums of money and media control.
People being easy to manipulate is feature of humanity, not evidence that democracy does not work.
People are in charge for allowing that to happens, allowing to continue etc. If things go shit under heavy influencing and manipulation it's the failure of the people. "ruling classes" in democracy works is the fault of the non ruling majority.
Re: Collapse of emergency healthcare in England may be costing 500 lives every week
#15What if the government allowed private enterprise to open emergency clinics in times of great need? There are probably a lot of people who would be willing to pay out of pocket for medical care, especially in an emergency, if it meant getting seen sooner.
Re: Collapse of emergency healthcare in England may be costing 500 lives every week
#16That is what people voted for...
I don’t buy that explanation. Democracy turned out to be easily manipulatable with large sums of money and media control. At this point, an average person can’t have much of an affect on how government is acting. Very few people can take a day off to protest, and even if they do, protests tend to be meaningless too. I’m not saying that average person is blameless but most of the fault lies with the ruling classes.
> At this point, an average person can’t have much of an affect on how government is acting. Very few people can take a day off to protest, and even if they do, protests tend to be meaningless too.
The older I get, the more I believe the only real voting someone can do is with their wallet.
Re: Collapse of emergency healthcare in England may be costing 500 lives every week
#17They subtract COVID deaths from excess deaths to get the baseline, forgetting that COVID deaths were counted somewhat liberally, and some percentage of non-COVID deaths were counted as COVID deaths if someone was infected close to their time of death. This can be seen in the following chart: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor... (You need to change the "Metric" dropdown)
If you compare excess deaths in 2022 to COVID deaths in the same period: Peaks in COVID deaths don't produce peaks in excess deaths. So saying that excess deaths are higher now than they were in the past is likely due to the underestimation of con-COVID excess deaths during COVID, and not a real effect.
Re: Collapse of emergency healthcare in England may be costing 500 lives every week
#18Canada is having the same issue with 20hr waits in the emergency room and others being rejected outright https://globalnews.ca/news/9066662/emergency-rooms-canada-bi... I’ve heard a big part is all the doctors have been going on vacation all at once now that COVID is largely over, after not taking them for two years. They don’t have enough staff to cover even partial shortages. That plus the elephant in the room of p…
I'm happy for them that they made it to the point they can actually take time off. A big issue over here (NL) is that the doctors and nurses have fallen ill themselves, either from the 'rona or long covid, or from being overworked for so long. And because of the workload, a lot of people have quit as well.
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(Not) Luckily the US healthcare system is already collapsing without social medicine, so it’s not a great talking point. Staffing and supply shortages paint a bleak picture over the next few years.
"the US healthcare system is already collapsing" What do you mean by this, specifically? People not having insurance? Increasing deaths inside the hospital? Large numbers of people turned away from emergency rooms?
I'm questioning this because with the exception of malpractice, the U.S. healthcare system seems to be working quite well, despite the large numbers of uninsured and those who cannot pay.
I just don't buy this argument that the U.S. healthcare system is "collapsing" because if you call an ambulance they will take you to the hospital, and if your life is in danger regardless of your ability to pay, there's a higher chance of surviving in an American medical facility than most places on earth.
Re: Collapse of emergency healthcare in England may be costing 500 lives every week
#20What if the government allowed private enterprise to open emergency clinics in times of great need? There are probably a lot of people who would be willing to pay out of pocket for medical care, especially in an emergency, if it meant getting seen sooner.
Private enterprises are already running a significant chunk of UK health care at the moment; the Tory government is dismantling the socialized health care in favor of short-term profit. It's not about whether people are willing, it's whether they can afford it or if they have no choice but to go into debt.
Anyway, the NHS has also paid private clinics already because their own facilities are at capacity.