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The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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> Some may argue that there's no need to be dramatic and that there's nothing wrong in seeing an occasional ad every now and then. Oh, no, I am very dramatic about this. I will go to any lengths not to see advertising. I will entirely forgo any platform that shows me even one ad, especially when I pay them. Amazon Prime video is already pushing it with their preroll previews. The second it's something else I'm cancel…

It should be mentioned that "advertising" is not "showing an ad". it is collecting and selling detailed information about people's activities and behaviors.

its both

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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OMG it has a carrier board for an RPi Compute Module built in: https://i.imgur.com/D3p8bCA.png That's amazing!

Jeff Geerling talks about this very TV in one of his videos a while back: https://youtu.be/-epPf7D8oMk If my partner wasn’t so hell bent in decor when choosing a TV, I would have loved one of these!

that's a fascinating review of that TV

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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FWIW, it is still possible to get TVs without this stuff, albeit at a premium. TVs are still made for business usage in areas like conference rooms, wall displays etc. They're often found under labeling like "commercial digital signage" or "business display" or the like, they seem to often try to avoid using "TV" (if being cynical maybe to make them harder for normal people to discover and confuse them if they do). B…

its much easier to just buy any smart tv and not connect it to the internet

Until your TV decides to connect to your neighbour's open wifi AP

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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I bought a TCL with smart features and there's no ads and I just dont connect it to wifi. The Firestick 4k Max I got for $75 advertises prime shows occasionally (unobtrusively) but the UI is 2x as fast as my Chromecast so I very happily use it w/ IPTV, Airplay, and streaming apps.

I have a Firestick 4k Max on our main TV and a standard 4k stick on the other TV. They just work compared to my Shield TV which always seemed to fighting my home theater setup. I got them through a Prime deal, so I think I spent a total of $75 for both. I've been tempted by some in-app features that only seem to work on AppleTV devices but not enough to spend that much when my current devices do the job so well.

Like some high quality audio streaming or better Airplay integration or something?

I had the same temptations to upgrade to Apple but I've resisted. Android seems to be where it's at for pure variety of software when it comes to TV/streaming media.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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At home, I've never connected my TV to my network. The few firmware updates I've needed to do were applied using a thumb drive, and I use an AppleTV as my interface. When I travel, I bring along an AppleTV and plug the HDMI port into their set. This lets me keep the services I subscribe-to and use them with their display. This has worked great until my most-recent rental, which had a RokuTV -- presumably setup on Wif…

>When content was streaming from my AppleTV, Roku would overlay a panel along the bottom-part of the screen proposing that I can watch what I'm currently watching from a variety of other providers. This must mean that the TV set is analyzing the video or audio signal to fingerprint what the content contained, then matching it against a library of content to feed into its profile of my use. My Roku TV specifically sai…

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Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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FWIW, it is still possible to get TVs without this stuff, albeit at a premium. TVs are still made for business usage in areas like conference rooms, wall displays etc. They're often found under labeling like "commercial digital signage" or "business display" or the like, they seem to often try to avoid using "TV" (if being cynical maybe to make them harder for normal people to discover and confuse them if they do). B…

I looked at an LG one, 65EP5G. It's around 10x the cost of other 65" LG OLED displays. I get that it might be higher quality, but not 10x higher, and I know there's some revenue from ads, but not $10k.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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downloading video content copy for personal consumption without owning original is legal in many European countries, uploading/distributing would be very different matter, let alone software

Most pirating is done via torrent. If you’re downloading content, you are also uploading it. But no it isn’t legal to download content that wasn’t authorized to be uploaded.

> Most pirating is done via torrent.

that's certainly not truth in many EU countries and one of the reasons is because downlaoding is legal, so DDL is king, heck even I pirate since 90s and started to use torrents just in recent years, until then was downloading all my movies/TV shows legally from DDL where are illegally uploaded by someone else

> But no it isn’t legal to download content that wasn’t authorized to be uploaded.

wrong, it's legal to download/stream video content for your personal usage and you don't need to care about any authorization, that's problem of the hosting provider and uploader, you as downloader are off the hook

check question 11 for various countries - Czechia, Slovakia, Spain and many other countries allow this https://euipo.europa.eu/ohimportal/en/web/observatory/faq-cs...

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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Samsung frame. Hardware: It has physical netflix, prime, somethingelse buttons which immediately switch to that app without asking if you want to close the current app. Frustrating when you accidentally sit on your remote. So i modified my remote, put tape underneath the buttons to disable them. Software: In menu ads, sometimes, for some crap thing like tennistv. I have no idea how to disable it. The fucking frame st…

> You cannot disable it (i assumed it was possible). Long-hold power off to turn the tv off. Else frame mode. Sucks. I have this TV; you long press the power button to turn it off. The entire gimmick of the TV is the art mode, as the actual panel isn't very good and you can buy the TV without the gimmick for several hundred dollars less (A regular 65" Samsung Frame is ~2K, while the normal 65" QLED is $1,200). My gri…

Since I thought it was a gimmick I just assumed you could switch it off. The TV is 32” btw. Just big enough to comfortably see the ball when watching football, small enough to not be the centerpiece of the living room. I do not have any complaints about the panel btw, good enough i guess.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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downloading video content copy for personal consumption without owning original is legal in many European countries, uploading/distributing would be very different matter, let alone software

> downloading video content copy for personal consumption without owning original is legal in many European countries No it isn't.

> 11. Am I infringing copyright if I watch a movie by streaming it instead of downloading it from the internet?

> Films, series, etc. can be downloaded or streamed online thanks to various websites (services) that offer this content legally. *However, users can also obtain this content thanks to various online file-hosting services and websites with embedded videos, which do not have the appropriate authorisation for this kind of communication of works to the public.*

> *Users are not liable for copyright infringement in the case of downloading or streaming the work for their own personal use* — based on the private-use exception and the three-step test.

Answer nr 11. Source: https://euipo.europa.eu/ohimportal/en/web/observatory/faq-cs...

Same applies to Slovakia, same applies to Spain, etc.

Next time you better check your sources before giving misleading answers about something you have no idea about.

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