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Very funny: we had a hard time finding a car wide enough to accomodate three child safety seats without being too long to park.. Now our children are getting older so this is less an issue, but (Europeans) car are still quite bad for three children: the one in the middle has often a reduced place and/or an unconfortable seat.
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It's not an issue of lacking anchors, in my experience. It's that there doesn't exist (AFAIK) a car wide enough to accommodate three carseats side-by-side. Carseats are very wide.
The average slim carseat is 17" wide. Not just any car seat, but a slim one. It's a whole category of seats. That means 3 side-by-side car seats require 51" of rear hip and rear shoulder room, which is really very doable. In modern cars, your choices include a Subaru Impreza, a Mazda 3, Toyota Corolla, Nissan Sentra, Ford Focus, BMW 3 series, Audi a4.. I could go on, but basically every manufacturer's smallest car. Y…
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The average slim carseat is 17" wide. Not just any car seat, but a slim one. It's a whole category of seats. That means 3 side-by-side car seats require 51" of rear hip and rear shoulder room, which is really very doable. In modern cars, your choices include a Subaru Impreza, a Mazda 3, Toyota Corolla, Nissan Sentra, Ford Focus, BMW 3 series, Audi a4.. I could go on, but basically every manufacturer's smallest car. Y…
Okay, this is a new category of product that didn't exist when I first shopped for carseats. I suppose now the primary issue is that one might have to plan ahead and buy slim carseats from the beginning, since as I recall it, the process was: buy a baby seat, turn it around, then buy a bigger seat passing the baby seat down for the next one, turn that one around, then buy a second bigger seat, and... that's the point…
It is true that you will probably need to plan ahead and buy slim car seats. But even if you don’t, three car seats is still far less expensive than many other child things. Three car seats is less than half as expensive as daycare for a single child for a single month, in my area at least.
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It's car seats that are affecting fertility, and definitely couldn't be the cost of raising a child. /s
Money and time are fungible on a societal level. If you throw up barriers to entry in the form of time and/or money you will get less of whatever it is you're throwing barriers in front of. Car seats are just one example of a barrier.
We’re debating the merits of reducing the bump while ignoring the much much bigger issues.
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"we probably won't consider riding in the bed of a pickup acceptable child safety." On a private road (my example) at low speeds "As I understand it the rear facing childseats are only required until the age of two. If you can only fit one in the back of your truck, doesn't that mean that really you just need to stagger out your children if you want to have multiple?" Which is covered in the article and goes over the…
> On a private road (my example) at low speeds OK, so that's an anecdote entirely unrelated to the question at hand regarding child seats. > With fewer laws, those determinations are left up to the individual. With more laws, society is making that determination and imposing it via force (criminal laws), removing the person's discretion. I think this ignores edge cases, and leads to more people feeling ostracized, po…
Yes, they are responsible for aborher human. The question is who sets those minimum standards and what should they be. If the caregiver can't be trusted with simple everyday things like this, then can they be entrusted with this child at all?
This resonates with me. It’s beyond tedious to get the kids in and out of the car seats all the time, and needing to buy a larger car to fit more than two kids gave me significant pause. We eventually decided to have more kids, and the positives far outweigh the negatives for us, but to this day the hassle of loading and unloading the car to go places is the single biggest negative experience of raising children. It…
They are my biggest investment.
Yes, properly fastening the youngest ones is a hassle, but one I'll happily take again and again as long as necessary.
Very funny: we had a hard time finding a car wide enough to accomodate three child safety seats without being too long to park.. Now our children are getting older so this is less an issue, but (Europeans) car are still quite bad for three children: the one in the middle has often a reduced place and/or an unconfortable seat.
Maybe it’s different in Europe. In the US it’s pretty easy to find narrow car seats that can fit three across, in my experience. We just went on Amazon and bought them.
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Binary thinking. The question is not whether there are downsides to a declining birthrate (there are) but whether there are even larger downsides to over population (pollution, resource depletion, destruction of other species). Musk's solution is simply find another planet to trash. You simply choose to fiddle as the Earth burns - literally.
No, I simply choose to treat the decisions of others that I disagree with a bit more respect and candor than you do. You are too comfortable with lecturing other individuals, and I doubt you’d communicate like this with a stranger in person. Especially when the thing you’re criticizing is biologically hardwired result of two people that love one another and want to share a life together.
Anyway, I disagree. Now more than ever it is necessary to examine and weigh the desires of the lizard brain. The lizard brain will never find equilibrium when it has supremacy in its locality and has desires. We know this. We've seen it in nature, and we've lived it ourselves. We're too powerful and capable to be contained by our surroundings, so now we're going to have to think our way out of this or cook the planet.
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Binary thinking. The question is not whether there are downsides to a declining birthrate (there are) but whether there are even larger downsides to over population (pollution, resource depletion, destruction of other species). Musk's solution is simply find another planet to trash. You simply choose to fiddle as the Earth burns - literally.
No, I simply choose to treat the decisions of others that I disagree with a bit more respect and candor than you do. You are too comfortable with lecturing other individuals, and I doubt you’d communicate like this with a stranger in person. Especially when the thing you’re criticizing is biologically hardwired result of two people that love one another and want to share a life together.
2. I have a raised a child with some one I love. We made a decision to limit the size of our family for the reasons I stated above. I do not begrudge others making a different decision. I dis-like it when they bemoan the fact that their decision has consequences they don't like.
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It's car seats that are affecting fertility, and definitely couldn't be the cost of raising a child. /s
You can provide a better quality of life than any child had 100 years ago, for very little money. So why exactly would money be the limiting factor?