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Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 9:36 PM UTC

boplicity wrote: post #3

Alcoholism is causing me to lose relationships with two family members, plus it has caused severe stress among many other of my family members. For a long time, because my wife barely drinks, and I barely drink, I was able to ignore the situation. However, it has recently become clear how much I've lost because of others' drinking problems. I don't think my situation is unusual, either. I suspect many of us have rela…

> However, it also commonly leads to severe outcomes that are often outside of our control, and that harm us even if we don't even drink alcohol.

I was about to ask what harm you thought was caused (not in an argumentative way, just curious) when I remembered driving (among others, but that one is far more obvious). Yeah, duh.

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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Post by mbg721 » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 9:48 PM UTC

Mtinie wrote: post #130

wheelerof4te wrote: post #46

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The fact that alcohol is sold in stores en masse, but it's somehow so bad that it kills cells? If it is so bad, why isn't it banned in every country in the world? Beer is even considered food in some countries. I don't see any evidence for his theories mentioned in the video.

Alcohol as a “cultural lubricant” has been with us for as long as humans have had oral histories passed down. The alcoholic beverage lobbies around the world are politically powerful and have very entrenched interests within countries. The United States attempted to ban it during Prohibition. That social experiment lasted 13 years before it was repealed. If you’d like to understand what makes your proposal for a unil…

One reason why Prohibition didn't work (and why alcohol has been culturally significant for so long) is that alcoholic beverages are ridiculously easy to make. If you have fruit or grain, a container, and some time...

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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Post by boplicity » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 9:49 PM UTC

wheelerof4te wrote: post #29

npwr wrote: post #12

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Sounds like you're depressed and automedicating. But alcohol will only make you more depressed in the long run.

No, it's just stress and anxiety. Also, my motor skills are bad so I literally can't relax, even if I want to. Low dose of alcohol helps my hands and upper torso relax.

You're medicating for stress and anxiety? That's another common way people start evolving alcoholics. Don't self medicate. It's dangerous and can lead to alcoholism. Far better to seek appropriate care from a professional.

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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Post by 2-718-281-828 » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 9:55 PM UTC

jjulius wrote: post #10

wheelerof4te wrote: post #4

Honestly, one bottle of beer turns me from a chronically melancholic and outright boring person, to a functioning, social human being. So, I call BS.

>Honestly, one bottle of beer turns me from a chronically melancholic and outright boring person, to a functioning, social human being. >So, I call BS. You , not others. You , who is but one single data point in a vast sea of data points.

you and your "data points" are in need of a bottle of beer I suppose

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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Post by 2-718-281-828 » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 9:59 PM UTC

jononomo wrote: post #124

mstipetic wrote: post #81

To flip the question, why would you like a long and healthy life? Are you happy about the world you're sending your kids into? What do you tell them about the world?

I do want a long and healthy life. Yes, I am happy about the world I'm sending my kids into. I'll tell them the world is a wonderful miracle and our purpose is to contribute to its flourishing as much as possible.

you are in denial due to sunk cost fallacy and stockholm syndrome

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 10:03 PM UTC

atwood22 wrote: post #136

TakeBlaster16 wrote: post #85

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Maybe you're right, maybe not. https://talbottcampus.com/crack-statistics/ > And the National Drug Intelligence Center reports, “an estimated 6,222,000 U.S. residents aged 12 and older used crack at least once in their lifetime.” A lot of people have used crack, and a lot of those people do not fit the stereotypes about who uses or why. There are all kinds of people in this world, and we all live very different lives…

What’s your point? A lot of people have tried crack and there are a lot of crack addicts. I calculated the numbers of Australia a few years ago. Something like 10% of people who try heroin become dependent. That number is like 0.1% or 0.01% for alcohol.

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Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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Post by 2-718-281-828 » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 10:09 PM UTC

shouldn't there be some strong and measurable impact on muslim societies (which tend to drink no alcohol) compared to non-muslim societies (who tend to drink alcohol)? is saudi arabia governed smarter or are imams wiser than catholic priests? do they live or stay healthy for longer?

having said that I am personally going through some changes. and for some reason I observed the past weeks how I don't enjoy drinking alcohol anymore. not because of healthy considerations on a rational level but just the feeling it gives me. the buzz seems to be gone and instead I'm left with an unpleasant drowsiness that lingers for way too long. I have never been an excessive drinker. I'm wondering what caused this change as it seems to be stemming from a more fundamental neurological or physiological level. I got vaccinated this year more than ten times (especially recently) due to upcoming travels and I stopped drinking coffee three months ago. might one of this contribute?

something else to consider. the host of the podcast is affiliated with a nootropic company and advertises its products at the beginning of the clip. nootropics are generally about "take this pill every day and you will feel better". directly related is the idea of "don't do this any more and you'll feel better". I'd keep that in mind consuming the presented arguments.

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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Post by jjulius » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 10:28 PM UTC

2-718-281-828 wrote: post #154

jjulius wrote: post #10

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>Honestly, one bottle of beer turns me from a chronically melancholic and outright boring person, to a functioning, social human being. >So, I call BS. You , not others. You , who is but one single data point in a vast sea of data points.

you and your "data points" are in need of a bottle of beer I suppose

I'm an alcoholic, but thanks. Care to eschew your sarcasm and have a discussion about why we should use how OP's body responds to alcohol as the primary reason to cast this entire article (that came with cited studies) as "bullshit"? Because that's all my point was.

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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Post by jjulius » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 10:32 PM UTC

dh2022 wrote: post #142

Mtinie wrote: post #11

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Congratulations. You’ve found your ideal dosage for your unique situation. For many of us, one drink leads to more drinks at which point the physiological and psychological changes covered in the linked article become amplified.

Speak for yourself, do not speak for me.

>For many of us...

"Many" does not mean "all".

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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Post by 2-718-281-828 » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 10:37 PM UTC

jjulius wrote: post #158

2-718-281-828 wrote: post #154

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you and your "data points" are in need of a bottle of beer I suppose

I'm an alcoholic, but thanks. Care to eschew your sarcasm and have a discussion about why we should use how OP's body responds to alcohol as the primary reason to cast this entire article (that came with cited studies) as "bullshit"? Because that's all my point was.

well then no beer for you - I understood wheel's point as mostly hinting at alcohol serving a purpose as a social lubricant. and that's pretty established and well-observable. doesn't form an imperative, though. to call "BS" on the podcast's content is of course a bit over the top.