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Declassified Bunker of the USSR

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Re: Declassified Bunker of the USSR

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Oh oh! Put a datacenter in there!

10 years ago during the dot com bubble there were tons of companies that bought up old missile silo's and turned them into datacenters. I don't think any of them survived.

And the bunker datacentre in the UK http://www.thebunker.net/

Re: Declassified Bunker of the USSR

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The blue flat panel displays in the first picture and farther down are confusing. They're clearly not original, only a few years old. Perhaps the museum people did some reconstruction? I wonder what else we're seeing is reconstruction of what they thought a soviet bunker should look like.

Yes, those are LG monitors, and you can see a PC workstation under the desk.

Too bad they replaced whatever was there with those monitors

Re: Declassified Bunker of the USSR

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Non blogspam original link: http://moscow-walks.livejournal.com/918332.html It's not good when blogspam from englishrussia.com is on the HN frontpage for hours.

Thank you. EnglishRussia is not only a blogspam site but also full of stupid porn links.

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I love this line: "Now a museum of cold war is organized in the bunker where one can try on respirators, protective gear, hold different guns, etc." You know, the usual sort of museum experience. As interesting as this is, it's also tragic if you think about the vast resources humankind has spent on building terrible weapons and defenses against those weapons. Imagine how much farther we would be ahead as a society i…

>You know, the usual sort of museum experience.

The WW2 museum in london is like that as well. It's a lot of fun.

Re: Declassified Bunker of the USSR

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Non blogspam original link: http://moscow-walks.livejournal.com/918332.html It's not good when blogspam from englishrussia.com is on the HN frontpage for hours.

englishrussia.com has English text. Better than Russian text for most of us.

It would be nice if they linked to their sources without passing it through what looks like a stumbleupon type service. In this case they link to http://2leep.com/bar.php?url=http://moscow-walks.livejournal... as the source.

Re: Declassified Bunker of the USSR

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I love this line: "Now a museum of cold war is organized in the bunker where one can try on respirators, protective gear, hold different guns, etc." You know, the usual sort of museum experience. As interesting as this is, it's also tragic if you think about the vast resources humankind has spent on building terrible weapons and defenses against those weapons. Imagine how much farther we would be ahead as a society i…

It would be enough stopping spending trillions of dollars in today's wars.

Re: Declassified Bunker of the USSR

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If you want to visit a similar facility in the US, there's one at the Greenbrier resort in West Virginia: http://www.greenbrier.com/play-here/the-bunker.aspx The Greenbrier bunker was built in the late 1950s/early 1960s as the emergency relocation point for the U.S. Congress in the event of a nuclear war. Its existence was kept secret until 1992, when a Washington Post story revealed it: http://www.washingtonpost.com…

That's amazing. A facility with 1600 employees that needed untold resources to construct is decommissioned as useless because the Washington Post writes an article about it.

They're of course within their rights to do so, but it's sad to think that all the work needed for the facility went to waste and its employees were laid off just because someone wrote an article on it.

Re: Declassified Bunker of the USSR

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Here's the former Scottish wartime government command bunker, in Fife: http://www.secretbunker.co.uk/explore_the_bunker.asp Open for visitors -- I can highly recommend it as a day out (an hour's drive from Edinburgh).

And there is one in Kelvedon Hatch outside London (accessible by underground + town bus): http://www.secretnuclearbunker.com/.

Re: Declassified Bunker of the USSR

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you in one sense, however the huge military expenditure allowed Silicon Valley to emerge. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=secret+histor... You could drive yourself mad playing a game of "what if we did things this way instead?"

This seems like a classic broken window fallacy. I don't think you really appreciate how huge the huge is: > The cost of the Cold War was staggering; for the US the bill was $19.65 trillion (1948-1991) in 2010 dollars, of which $8,731.5 billion (also in 2010 dollars) was expended directly for nuclear arms.[34], [35] Precise data for the dollar cost of the Cold War to the USSR are not available, however it is generall…

I think he meant that the emergence of SV was one of fortunate outcomes of the Cold War, not that it justifies Cold War expedentures.

Re: Declassified Bunker of the USSR

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How did they even build this thing? The house looks like it's from the 19th century so it doesn't look like it was torn down and built again around the bunker. Did they hollow out an old building and put a bunker in there? How did nobody notice? How do you even build something 18 storeys deep without breaking the confines of a two storey house with your equipment? This thing opens up so many questions!

Remember that it opens, at one point, into the subway. Its just a supposition, but I could imagine this thing being built during the construction of the subway tunnel. It would be relatively easy to disguise all the equipment going in and dirt coming out in the process. Looking at the history of the Metro construction, the bunker construction dates to roughly the time of the 4th stage of the Metro construction. http:…

The timeframe is off. The bunker is in the vicinity of Taganskaya station (the one on the "ring") which was opened in 1950. The bunker was built between '58 and '63 - so not only it was built much later, it also took much longer than a typical subway construction project.
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