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Re: OpenAI API pricing update FAQ

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floxy wrote: post #54
dr_dshiv wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know what you mean. 1x cheaper would be same price. 3x cheaper means “the new price times 3 equals the old price.” However this is easier than percents or fractions. 100% cheaper means free. Do you want something 67% cheaper, 2/3s cheaper or 3x cheaper?

>1x cheaper would be same price. Let's say you have a product for sale at $32. Then you have a sale to boost name recognition, and have a coupon for $32 dollars off (limited time offer). Or equivalently, that would be $32 cheaper. So the net price is free ($0). $32 cheaper = 100% cheaper = 1x cheaper. Likewise, 25% cheaper = 25% less expensive, or doing the math $32 - 0.25*$32 = 0.75*$32 = $24.

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Re: OpenAI API pricing update FAQ

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Post by dan_mctree »

cbm-vic-20 wrote: post #33

I lack imagination. What is GPT-3 (and generative text models in general) useful for, other than toys? It can write essays, can we expect it to replace writers for newspapers and magazines? Can it write coherent technical documentation? Replace speechwriters? Edit: looks like the comment thread below is similar https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32554955

I've used it a bit to help with creativity. For example, I wanted to brainstorm some unit designs and gameplay mechanics for a RTS game I wanted to build. I prompted GPT-3 with an interview with a game designer where unit designs and mechanics were discussed. For a prompt I used a few questions and answers and then a single question I wanted GPT-3 to answer for me. After a few attempts with slight variations it spat out a bunch of ideas for me. While few of the designs were fully worked out and immediately usable, a couple of suggestions by GPT-3 were able to spark enough creativity to create some cool things.

My favorite reply was:

"A: I think the best example of this is the ability to swap positions with a friendly unit. This ability can be used in so many different ways. You can use it to support an ally, or you can use it to escape a tricky situation. You can use it to surprise an enemy by swapping with a unit they didn't expect, or you can use it to put yourself in a better tactical position. It's a simple idea, but it actually turns the whole game on its head."

Re: OpenAI API pricing update FAQ

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Post by keepquestioning »

layer8 wrote: post #68
mg wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GPT-3 is useful for a lot of things. It can write essays, it can write technical documentation, it can write speeches, it can write fiction, it can write poetry, it can write jokes, it can write jokes about jokes, it can write jokes about jokes about jokes, it can write jokes about jokes about jokes about jokes, it can write jokes about jokes about jokes about jokes about jokes, it can write jokes about jokes about j…

At least it didn’t go into an infinite loop. Maybe there’s explicit logic to prevent that.

What are thresholds used in generative text to stop generating characters?

Re: OpenAI API pricing update FAQ

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Post by Jensson »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #80
floxy wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>1x cheaper would be same price. Let's say you have a product for sale at $32. Then you have a sale to boost name recognition, and have a coupon for $32 dollars off (limited time offer). Or equivalently, that would be $32 cheaper. So the net price is free ($0). $32 cheaper = 100% cheaper = 1x cheaper. Likewise, 25% cheaper = 25% less expensive, or doing the math $32 - 0.25*$32 = 0.75*$32 = $24.

That’s precisely why it’s confusing, yes. You can’t equate 100% cheaper with 1x cheaper. 99% cheaper is sensible. 200% cheaper is not. 2x cheaper is. I’d love a cogent reason to explain this convention.

> I’d love a cogent reason to explain this convention.

"cheaper" isn't a defined operation except for "a is cheaper than b".

So the statements "6% cheaper" and "2 times cheaper" are shorts for "it is cheaper, it costs 6% less" and "it is cheaper, you get 2 times more for the same amount of money".

Re: OpenAI API pricing update FAQ

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Post by [deleted] »

simonw wrote: post #38
cbm-vic-20 wrote: post #33

I lack imagination. What is GPT-3 (and generative text models in general) useful for, other than toys? It can write essays, can we expect it to replace writers for newspapers and magazines? Can it write coherent technical documentation? Replace speechwriters? Edit: looks like the comment thread below is similar https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32554955

I wrote a few notes in this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32554955 Here's one that I find personally really interesting: Imagine you have a disability, and the government agencies responsible for helping you have denied your claim. You need to write them a letter. You don't have much (if any) experience writing letters to government agencies, so you're finding that task challenging. GPT-3 can write th…

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Re: OpenAI API pricing update FAQ

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Post by copperx »

School-Cotton wrote: post #85
dbrueck wrote: post #22

Is it just me, or are phrases like "3x cheaper" hard for other people to grok too? For some reason they always require me to pause and try to sort it out. Like, is the price being reduced by 66% or 75% or something else? What would "1x cheaper" mean?

Consider “cheapness” to be the reciprocal of price; thus, something that costs $30 has a cheapness score of 1/30 antidollars. For this item to become 3x cheaper would mean for its cheapness score to be multiplied by 3, thus 1/10 antidollars. Thus “3x cheaper” means the same thing as “price multipled by one third”.

I like this hypothesis; however, if that was indeed the original meaning, it would have more sense to advertise it as a 33% discount, or as slashing the price by 1/3. "3x cheaper" seems to be aimed to the average Joe shopping for shoes, not to a developer who knows arithmetic.

Re: OpenAI API pricing update FAQ

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Post by layer8 »

keepquestioning wrote: post #94
layer8 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least it didn’t go into an infinite loop. Maybe there’s explicit logic to prevent that.

What are thresholds used in generative text to stop generating characters?

Must be a bit more sophisticated than that, as it forms a complete sentence.

Re: OpenAI API pricing update FAQ

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Post by tomComb »

cma wrote: post #86
AJRF wrote: post #6

> We have been looking forward to reducing pricing for a long time. Our teams have made incredible progress in making our models more efficient to run, which has reduced the cost it takes to serve them, and we are now passing these savings along to our customers. Nothing to do with Stable Diffusion then, no?

Could be the GPU price crash as well (even if they use Google's TPUs, TPU demand would presumably go down in a GPU price crash).

Microsoft bought control of OpenAI so I believe this would all be running on Azure (so would not be using Google TPU's).
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