Is it just me, or are phrases like "3x cheaper" hard for other people to grok too? For some reason they always require me to pause and try to sort it out. Like, is the price being reduced by 66% or 75% or something else? What would "1x cheaper" mean?
For me, I tend to think of "3x" and "cheaper" as separate operations. So "3x cheaper" sounds like you're saying new_price = price - 3*price . That (usually) makes no sense, so I assume people mean something else when they say it, but I never have any clue what. Is it a third of the original price? Is it two thirds ( new_price = price - price/3 )? Percentages also work this way. If I say "10% cheaper", most people und…
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It’s incredibly good at generating scholarly text. Put in a title and abstract and it will come up with a strong intro that is clear and compelling. It helps me write academic papers more clearly, as a result. Also, great for early stages of grant writing or proposals. It came up with a fantastic conference proposal for me that I spent 20 minutes editing and then just sent, unedited. It will aid speechwriters or help…
It came up with a fantastic conference proposal for me that I spent 20 minutes editing and then just sent, unedited. Was this comment written by GPT-3? (That said - are all comments written by GPT-3?)
> Was this comment written by GPT-3?
You should submit that to GPT-3 as a prompt.
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We really gotta come up with another thing to repeat as the go-to diss than this. I'm all for putting pressure on them to release weights etc but they are a lot more open than e.g. google or meta, and the whole "ClosedAI" is so over-repeated at this point.
They brought it on themselves. They chose the name OpenAI. It was a terrible choice on their part, and the repeated criticism is a direct result of that choice.
I definitely agree, "open" in the name is pretty annoying and wrong. I'm a bit torn though - I tend to think GPT-3 is approaching a level where ML is becoming dangerous. Spam bots + GPT-3 is not my idea of a fun time. So the restrictions they put on usage do seem important.
Regardless of that moral question, I don't think a fully open model on the level of GPT-3 is even possible. Given the required cost to train and the expertise involved, big tech will always be a few years ahead. And it's unlikely they would give it away with how much they invest in creating it. Unless capitalism suddenly ends, I don't see any of the major tech companies parting with state of the art ML.
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How is this different or more useful than providing a template with madlibs-style fill in the blanks?
Because you can tell GPT3 what the concept is — ie, vaguely what you are going for and it will produce. Waaay more flexible than a template.
Still requires you to have an understanding of the concept, an understanding of how to prompt GPT-3, and how to verify the accuracy/veracity of the claims the AI model makes.
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#75Is it just me, or are phrases like "3x cheaper" hard for other people to grok too? For some reason they always require me to pause and try to sort it out. Like, is the price being reduced by 66% or 75% or something else? What would "1x cheaper" mean?
For me, I tend to think of "3x" and "cheaper" as separate operations. So "3x cheaper" sounds like you're saying new_price = price - 3*price . That (usually) makes no sense, so I assume people mean something else when they say it, but I never have any clue what. Is it a third of the original price? Is it two thirds ( new_price = price - price/3 )? Percentages also work this way. If I say "10% cheaper", most people und…
People mix up these two:
"Its cheaper, you get 3 times as much for the same price"
"Its cheaper, it costs 66% less"
Most people aren't well versed in math and just says something that kinda makes sense to them based on the numbers they know.
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#76Is this because GPT-4 is about to be released and they want to charge full price for that?
Maybe demand has slowed and they want to keep it up.
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How is this different or more useful than providing a template with madlibs-style fill in the blanks?
Because providing a template requires someone with knowledge of that particular problem space (in this case "writing letters to government agencies to inquire about disability benefits") to put in the work of designing the template, coming up with likely placeholders and predicting how people might need to use it. GPT-3 can do a good job of this all today, without any additional training. An expert could help out by…
A madlibs is more predictable, requires only one example, easy to understand for people with language issues or disabilities, more regulation-safe as it doesn't spit out unpredictable things.
And the madlibs is free to use, for everyone.
All things considered, GPT-3 is a more of a shibboleth of AI revolution than an actual one. Much better to give models like GPT-NeoX to talented development teams who can really optimize and fine tune it, attach great sampling strategies to it, and create great products from there. The API is just too limited for me to want to build a company atop it.
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#78I lack imagination. What is GPT-3 (and generative text models in general) useful for, other than toys? It can write essays, can we expect it to replace writers for newspapers and magazines? Can it write coherent technical documentation? Replace speechwriters? Edit: looks like the comment thread below is similar https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32554955
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#79Is it just me, or are phrases like "3x cheaper" hard for other people to grok too? For some reason they always require me to pause and try to sort it out. Like, is the price being reduced by 66% or 75% or something else? What would "1x cheaper" mean?
I process "3x cheaper" as "for the same money, I can get 3x the original amount". Which would be 33% the original price.
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I know what you mean. 1x cheaper would be same price. 3x cheaper means “the new price times 3 equals the old price.” However this is easier than percents or fractions. 100% cheaper means free. Do you want something 67% cheaper, 2/3s cheaper or 3x cheaper?
>1x cheaper would be same price. Let's say you have a product for sale at $32. Then you have a sale to boost name recognition, and have a coupon for $32 dollars off (limited time offer). Or equivalently, that would be $32 cheaper. So the net price is free ($0). $32 cheaper = 100% cheaper = 1x cheaper. Likewise, 25% cheaper = 25% less expensive, or doing the math $32 - 0.25*$32 = 0.75*$32 = $24.
That’s precisely why it’s confusing, yes. You can’t equate 100% cheaper with 1x cheaper. 99% cheaper is sensible. 200% cheaper is not. 2x cheaper is. I’d love a cogent reason to explain this convention.