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Re: OpenAI API pricing update FAQ

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I lack imagination. What is GPT-3 (and generative text models in general) useful for, other than toys? It can write essays, can we expect it to replace writers for newspapers and magazines? Can it write coherent technical documentation? Replace speechwriters? Edit: looks like the comment thread below is similar https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32554955

Maybe someone should ask GPT-3 what it is good for?

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#62

This is actually a big deal since this includes the davinci model everyone uses and was the biggest obstacle to cost-affordable deployment of GPT-3. The exemption for finetuned models is interesting: since they were 2x the price of the old prices, they're now 4x-6x more expensive than the base models. I bet that's how OpenAI really makes their money with enterprise.

Any good use cases for fine tuned models? I’ve been wanting to put in all my previous academic works and references and see how that changes things.

Otherwise, I’ve been using a model finetuned on the complete works of Plato and I have really been enjoying the new dialogues.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s incredibly good at generating scholarly text. Put in a title and abstract and it will come up with a strong intro that is clear and compelling. It helps me write academic papers more clearly, as a result. Also, great for early stages of grant writing or proposals. It came up with a fantastic conference proposal for me that I spent 20 minutes editing and then just sent, unedited. It will aid speechwriters or help…

It came up with a fantastic conference proposal for me that I spent 20 minutes editing and then just sent, unedited. Was this comment written by GPT-3? (That said - are all comments written by GPT-3?)

I assume what was meant was that they spent 20 minutes editing it, before realizing it was perfect as it was originally and sent the unedited copy.

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I wrote a few notes in this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32554955 Here's one that I find personally really interesting: Imagine you have a disability, and the government agencies responsible for helping you have denied your claim. You need to write them a letter. You don't have much (if any) experience writing letters to government agencies, so you're finding that task challenging. GPT-3 can write th…

How is this different or more useful than providing a template with madlibs-style fill in the blanks?

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Re: OpenAI API pricing update FAQ

#65

The so-called "open" in their name is an oxymoron. The whole thing is a trap. We need to work on our own, possibly publicly founded but really open solutions rather than depend on proprietary ones.

It is a known scam executed by the VCs.

Thankfully we have free alternatives to GPT-3 (BLOOM [0]) and DALL-E 2 (Stable Diffusion [1])

[0] https://huggingface.co/bigscience/bloom

[1] https://github.com/huggingface/diffusers/releases/tag/v0.2.3

Re: OpenAI API pricing update FAQ

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Is it just me, or are phrases like "3x cheaper" hard for other people to grok too? For some reason they always require me to pause and try to sort it out. Like, is the price being reduced by 66% or 75% or something else? What would "1x cheaper" mean?

I process "3x cheaper" as "for the same money, I can get 3x the original amount".

Which would be 33% the original price.

Re: OpenAI API pricing update FAQ

#67

I lack imagination. What is GPT-3 (and generative text models in general) useful for, other than toys? It can write essays, can we expect it to replace writers for newspapers and magazines? Can it write coherent technical documentation? Replace speechwriters? Edit: looks like the comment thread below is similar https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32554955

It’s been out 2 years already and the non-toy application with the biggest mass appeal is the glorified autocomplete / google shortcut Copilot.

Anyone being honest should admit it (was) more hot air and hype than reality.

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post #46

I lack imagination. What is GPT-3 (and generative text models in general) useful for, other than toys? It can write essays, can we expect it to replace writers for newspapers and magazines? Can it write coherent technical documentation? Replace speechwriters? Edit: looks like the comment thread below is similar https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32554955

GPT-3 is useful for a lot of things. It can write essays, it can write technical documentation, it can write speeches, it can write fiction, it can write poetry, it can write jokes, it can write jokes about jokes, it can write jokes about jokes about jokes, it can write jokes about jokes about jokes about jokes, it can write jokes about jokes about jokes about jokes about jokes, it can write jokes about jokes about j…

At least it didn’t go into an infinite loop. Maybe there’s explicit logic to prevent that.

Re: OpenAI API pricing update FAQ

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post #22

Is it just me, or are phrases like "3x cheaper" hard for other people to grok too? For some reason they always require me to pause and try to sort it out. Like, is the price being reduced by 66% or 75% or something else? What would "1x cheaper" mean?

To open.ai's credit, I don't see that text anywhere on the page or in the page title. The only info I see on the page about the price change is.

> We’re making our API more affordable on September 1, thanks to progress in making our models run more efficiently.

If you visit the page the price change is pretty clear, they show the before and after. 1k tokens will be anywhere from 1/2 to 1/3 the current price depending on which model you're using.

Re: OpenAI API pricing update FAQ

#70

This is actually a big deal since this includes the davinci model everyone uses and was the biggest obstacle to cost-affordable deployment of GPT-3. The exemption for finetuned models is interesting: since they were 2x the price of the old prices, they're now 4x-6x more expensive than the base models. I bet that's how OpenAI really makes their money with enterprise.

Any good use cases for fine tuned models? I’ve been wanting to put in all my previous academic works and references and see how that changes things. Otherwise, I’ve been using a model finetuned on the complete works of Plato and I have really been enjoying the new dialogues.

I made a blog post just last week about finetuned GPT-3, albeit only on the lower end and not finetuning davinci: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32471208

I suspect some of the more custom "be a better writer" services use a finetuned davinci.

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