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Tauri vs. Electron – Real world application

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Re: Tauri vs. Electron – Real world application

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Post by easton »

api wrote: post #9

One thing I don't see mentioned is the horror of shipping for Windows. You'll need Windows to have the Edge runtime, which means you have to bundle it or install it as an add-on. People will complain about this, especially IT people, because Edge runtime runs some kind of stupid background service all the time for no clear reason. It's also brittle since you will have to constantly keep your installer up to date with…

It doesn't help for most corporate environments (at least, not yet), but Windows 11 ships with the Edge WebView2 Runtime. They are "evaluating" shipping it via Windows Update to Windows 10 machines that are domain-joined: https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2022/06/27/delivering-th...

Re: Tauri vs. Electron – Real world application

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Post by vivekin »

I have been using Tauri to develop a Kubernetes IDE: https://github.com/nirops/yakiapp

One additional thing from my experience, is if using Rust as a backend, the turnaround time for hot loading Rust changes is not trivial. This leads to longer times in building things vis-a-vis building in Electron with .ts/.js backend.

Re: Tauri vs. Electron – Real world application

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Post by Levminer »

api wrote: post #9

One thing I don't see mentioned is the horror of shipping for Windows. You'll need Windows to have the Edge runtime, which means you have to bundle it or install it as an add-on. People will complain about this, especially IT people, because Edge runtime runs some kind of stupid background service all the time for no clear reason. It's also brittle since you will have to constantly keep your installer up to date with…

You are a little behind. Edge webview is included in Windows 11 by default. On Windows 10 the installer downloads it automatically. You don't have to do anything.

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Post by Levminer »

vivekin wrote: post #12

I have been using Tauri to develop a Kubernetes IDE: https://github.com/nirops/yakiapp One additional thing from my experience, is if using Rust as a backend, the turnaround time for hot loading Rust changes is not trivial. This leads to longer times in building things vis-a-vis building in Electron with .ts/.js backend.

Yes, good point you need a very good processor for instant hot reload.

Re: Tauri vs. Electron – Real world application

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Post by keraf »

The 5th point in this article is what makes me end up using Electron most of the time.

As much as I love Tauri (and Wails), WebView requires to make sure the application renders exactly the same across all platforms. Sure, Electron comes with its downsides like the article rightfully points out. But having a UI that renders and behaves exactly the same on all platforms (thanks to the version locked Chromium bundled in the app) is really nice to have.

I wish there would be the possibility to bundle a renderer (maybe a more lightweight one?) with Tauri or Wails instead of using WebView.

Re: Tauri vs. Electron – Real world application

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Post by gbro3n »

chimen wrote: post #10

Flutter desktop? Anyone tried it?

Flutter is really compelling, would love to be given a project using it based on what I've seen of the environment and tooling. Dart is nice too. In my recent evaluation though I decided to go with PWAs unless I really need native only APIs. Modern web APIs are decreasing the argument for native.

Re: Tauri vs. Electron – Real world application

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Post by esprehn »

pkulak wrote: post #6

> And if your user has the correct runtime for the webview used by Tauri you can just send them a single executable So does this mean all these comparisons are between a web bundle that runs on an existing VM, and a web bundledthat came packaged with a VM? Because I thought the whole point of Electron was that all the dependencies came packaged together, even if that adds 100 megs to the install.

Yup. Tauri is more like Ionic or Cordova than Electron. You get a mostly web based developer experience, but without the browser matrix simplification so you're still at the whim of the system WebView capabilities for the view layer.

The good news is the built in webviews have come a long way since webcompat is much better across browsers, but it's still extra things to worry about and can produce problems on old MacOS or Windows pre-11.

See also:

https://tauri.app/v1/guides/architecture/process-model

https://tauri.app/v1/api/js/

Re: Tauri vs. Electron – Real world application

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Post by api »

Levminer wrote: post #14
api wrote: post #9

One thing I don't see mentioned is the horror of shipping for Windows. You'll need Windows to have the Edge runtime, which means you have to bundle it or install it as an add-on. People will complain about this, especially IT people, because Edge runtime runs some kind of stupid background service all the time for no clear reason. It's also brittle since you will have to constantly keep your installer up to date with…

You are a little behind. Edge webview is included in Windows 11 by default. On Windows 10 the installer downloads it automatically. You don't have to do anything.

Does it work on Windows 10 Enterprise running Crowdstrike in the EU during a full moon on an odd numbered day while it's raining?

Being sarcastic of course, but... hey maybe I'll take another look.

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