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Re: Maps.earth – free and open-source web maps

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Post by soheil »

ellenhp wrote: post #10
abetusk wrote: post #3

I'm a little confused as to what this actually is. Is this a route planning built on top of OSM? Does this bundle OSM data "all in one" so that you can more easily host an OSM server?

OSM doesn't have a server per se (other than the OSM API server). It's a dataset for the most part. Headway lets you bring up a server that will render maps tiles, allows you to search for places and get routes between places. It's trying to be a user-friendly UI for various pieces of the OSM ecosystem. There are a lot of amazing pieces of software out there that work with OSM data, but there isn't an easy way to bri…

There no frontend to bring up an OSM? Literally you need a single line to load one up:

  (new map('map_div')).addLayer(new TileLayer('http://{s}.tile.openstreetmap.org/{z}/{x}/{y}.png'))

Re: Maps.earth – free and open-source web maps

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Post by paxys »

ellenhp wrote: post #18
paxys wrote: post #6

I tried the hosted app at https://maps.earth but it isn't really usable at present. How do you actually search for and navigate to places?

The search box in the top left should bring up a bunch of autocomplete suggestions when you type stuff into it. Clicking on one brings up a place card view [1]. If my demo server falls over that will fail to populate. Once you have a place card you can hit "bike there" or something and then populate the "From" field that appears again in the top left to get a directions view [2]. Not ideal, the frontend was built in…

I guess it may be failing due to the request spike. Even otherwise, searching for common places like "San Francisco" or "New York" shows a dozen results all over Europe and South America, not the one place most people would be looking for. Street address search doesn't seem to work either.

Re: Maps.earth – free and open-source web maps

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Post by abetusk »

ellenhp wrote: post #10
abetusk wrote: post #3

I'm a little confused as to what this actually is. Is this a route planning built on top of OSM? Does this bundle OSM data "all in one" so that you can more easily host an OSM server?

OSM doesn't have a server per se (other than the OSM API server). It's a dataset for the most part. Headway lets you bring up a server that will render maps tiles, allows you to search for places and get routes between places. It's trying to be a user-friendly UI for various pieces of the OSM ecosystem. There are a lot of amazing pieces of software out there that work with OSM data, but there isn't an easy way to bri…

There are services hosting OSM data, often times requiring paid API access for anything other than personal use.

OSM is amazing, for sure, but standing up even a small OSM service that only services a map in your local town/city/community is too daunting for most people (myself included).

Considering there are many other comments in this thread that mirror my main question, I would try and figure out messaging. Is it a particular tile rendering on top of OSM data? Is it trip heading information? Is it helping people stand up self hosted OSM servers? Is it helping with just a few components of that process? If so, which components? etc.

It's hard to know what the "value add" is here and a lot of this is my own ignorance on how the OSM ecosystem works but that's kind of what I would recommend trying to convey to people.

I wouldn't assume deep familiarity with OSM. I would like to hear more, especially concerning tools to help stand up a self hosted OSM server more easily, as I would suspect many other people would, but it would be nice to have some basics spelled out instead of assuming I have deep familiarity with the sprawling and intricate OSM ecosystem.

Re: Maps.earth – free and open-source web maps

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Post by owenpalmer »

ellenhp wrote: post #18
paxys wrote: post #6

I tried the hosted app at https://maps.earth but it isn't really usable at present. How do you actually search for and navigate to places?

The search box in the top left should bring up a bunch of autocomplete suggestions when you type stuff into it. Clicking on one brings up a place card view [1]. If my demo server falls over that will fail to populate. Once you have a place card you can hit "bike there" or something and then populate the "From" field that appears again in the top left to get a directions view [2]. Not ideal, the frontend was built in…

Not working for me either. No results show up, even for common places like LA.

Re: Maps.earth – free and open-source web maps

#27

Post by shafyy »

Hey, this looks great, thanks for working on it! I'm the creator of Mapzy[0], an open-source and self-hostable store finder. We're trying to focus on privacy as much as possible, but currently use Mapbox since it's better than Google Maps and we didn't find any other alternatives.

Do you think Headway could be a replacement for us? We currently use the Mapbox JS library to create the pins etc. - could we use Headway with Leaflet JS for example? We also use the Mapbox geocoder, mainly for reverse geocoding of addresses. How does Headway's geocoder compare?

0: https://github.com/mapzy/mapzy/

Re: Maps.earth – free and open-source web maps

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Post by abetusk »

abetusk wrote: post #3

I'm a little confused as to what this actually is. Is this a route planning built on top of OSM? Does this bundle OSM data "all in one" so that you can more easily host an OSM server?

OK, the GitHub page spells it out better [0].

> Self-hostable maps stack, powered by OpenStreetMap.

In addition to listing out some of the required specs (for a localized area) [1]:

> ... generation ... needs ... 8GB of memory ... running ... around 4GB ...

> ... recommend ... 50GB ... disk space

[0] https://github.com/headwaymaps/headway

[1] https://github.com/headwaymaps/headway#system-requirements

Re: Maps.earth – free and open-source web maps

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Post by ellenhp »

owenpalmer wrote: post #26
ellenhp wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The search box in the top left should bring up a bunch of autocomplete suggestions when you type stuff into it. Clicking on one brings up a place card view [1]. If my demo server falls over that will fail to populate. Once you have a place card you can hit "bike there" or something and then populate the "From" field that appears again in the top left to get a directions view [2]. Not ideal, the frontend was built in…

Not working for me either. No results show up, even for common places like LA.

Yeah, I've noticed that at least the way Pelias is configured in Headway, searches for administrative areas don't seem to work, like at all. I'm not sure if that's a config issue or an issue with Pelias though. Address search should definitely work as long as there's an appropriately tagged OSM node for your address, but the server's load average is 40 on a 6 core OVH box in Germany so you might have to be (very) patient to get anything back until the load drops to a level it can deal with.

Re: Maps.earth – free and open-source web maps

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

abetusk wrote: post #28
abetusk wrote: post #3

I'm a little confused as to what this actually is. Is this a route planning built on top of OSM? Does this bundle OSM data "all in one" so that you can more easily host an OSM server?

OK, the GitHub page spells it out better [0]. > Self-hostable maps stack, powered by OpenStreetMap. In addition to listing out some of the required specs (for a localized area) [1]: > ... generation ... needs ... 8GB of memory ... running ... around 4GB ... > ... recommend ... 50GB ... disk space [0] https://github.com/headwaymaps/headway [1] https://github.com/headwaymaps/headway#system-requirements

could we.... uh, have our server for a specific city or town for example if the use case is around that area only? that would save a lot of resources
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