The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

Post by scarface74 » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 1:31 PM UTC

js2 wrote: post #138

scarface74 wrote: post #85

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I love my ATV 4K. But it’s useless for traveling since hotels require you to login and the AppleTV doesn’t have a browser. The Roku sticks get around this by temporarily exposing a pass through wifi connection that you can connect to from your phone/computer and log in to your hotel’s wifi. The only work around with the AppleTV is to buy a second travel router.

With tvOS 15.4, "Captive Wi-Fi network support on tvOS allows you to use your iPhone or iPad to connect your Apple TV to networks that need additional sign-in steps, like at hotels or dorms." https://developer.apple.com/documentation/tvos-release-notes...

Post by justaman » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 1:32 PM UTC

s1k3s wrote: post #76

I feel like these anti-consumer practices by BigCorp can open the door for new companies to emerge on the market: build an ad-free tv, ad-free smartphones etc. Or is it just the effect of me living in a bubble while 99.9% of the customers don't care about this?

Post by _fat_santa » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 1:33 PM UTC

ilitirit wrote: post #127

YouTube's advertising strategy is pushing me to get rid of my SmartTV, or at least find a 3rd Party solution to completely block the ads. I was completely fine with one or two 6 second ads randomly playing before a video, or during a lengthy video. Then they added 14 second ads, which was very annoying, but bearable since it's about the same length as the two short ads. But now they're advertising even if I simply op…

Post by LinuxBender » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 1:34 PM UTC

noisy_boy wrote: post #95

scarface74 wrote: post #26

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Where can I get a 65 inch computer monitor? I’ve done the homelab media server. I did my first one back in 2006 with a Mac Mini running Front Row. But this is 2022. If you want a set top box without tracking, just buy an AppleTV. It cost more because Apple makes money off of hardware and not advertising. Yes I know the reports about Apple getting even deeper into advertising. Yes it saddens me.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-75-4k-interactive-touch... Not cheap though.

Post by sligor » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 1:34 PM UTC

mrweasel wrote: post #161

ilitirit wrote: post #127

YouTube's advertising strategy is pushing me to get rid of my SmartTV, or at least find a 3rd Party solution to completely block the ads. I was completely fine with one or two 6 second ads randomly playing before a video, or during a lengthy video. Then they added 14 second ads, which was very annoying, but bearable since it's about the same length as the two short ads. But now they're advertising even if I simply op…

YouTube do have a paid option, which doesn't have ads (unless the content creator has some sponsorship deal). It is the subscription service I get the most value from. Based on a few videos from content creators, it also seems like it's a good deal for them. I think Linus Tech Tips phrased something like: It matters much more than you think. Other have shown data suggestion that Premium customers contribute as much a…