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Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

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Post by mathieuh »

I moved jobs from a job with 100% WFH allowed to another one with 100% WFH allowed.

Luckily I live 15 minutes door-to-door on the bus away so I’ve been going in for not even a full day once per week. I do now think it’s nice to see people, but really that’s all I’m going in for, I find I am far more comfortable and therefore work better at home.

Don’t see myself ever working in an office again, and I look back on the days where I would actually take two flights a week to go and work in other people’s offices with amazement that I actually put up with it

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

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Post by Yiin »

frellus wrote: post #12

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Different people have different preferences and circumstances. Literally all of my team consist of people from different countries, working from office have absolutely no other value except for people in office to bother me with small talk. No thank you. Real snowflakes are people who can't understand why other people would want to do something differently than themselves.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

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Post by egeozcan »

jcadam wrote: post #11

I've moved to a rural area and am thus in a position to where I now have to work remotely. I much prefer the lifestyle out here to living in cities, so as long as a large number of companies are sticking with remote work, I should be good. Companies like Apple that invested in massive new campuses in recent years understandably have an incentive to get people in them.

> Companies like Apple that invested in massive new campuses in recent years understandably have an incentive to get people in them.

I don't understand it. It's a sunk cost, getting people there will just increase the costs and make many unhappy.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

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Post by antisthenes »

ParetoOptimal wrote: post #18
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> People who refuse to work from the office, even a few days out of the week, look like total snowflakes to me. I thought the level of intelligence on HN was higher than this.

There's a substantial layer of people in the US who derive most of their meaning from work and don't have a social circle outside of coworkers.

It's easy for them to lash out against an outgroup. I wouldn't take it personally.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

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Post by bluefirebrand »

frellus wrote: post #12

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> People who refuse to work from the office, even a few days out of the week, look like total snowflakes to me.

What's "snowflaky" about not wanting to waste your personal time commuting?

Until companies are paying for commute time and transportation costs, they can kiss my ass about returning to an office. It's always been bullshit, now it's just more obvious that its also unnecessary.

So if you want me in the office you better pay me for the extra time and cost.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

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Post by [deleted] »

01100011 wrote: post #15

China is falling into recession. Europe is falling into recession. A Federal Reserve governor(Kashkari) is now expressing doubt that inflation can be reined in without triggering a recession. Stonks have recovered from the initial drop, but that is a familiar pattern in many previous stock bubbles before the market really plummets. Think really hard about switching jobs now. If you do, have liquid reserves to fall ba…

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Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

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Post by quickthrower2 »

jcadam wrote: post #20
frellus wrote: post #12

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I would say as someone who is now fully remote, you really should only work for companies that are "remote first" if you want to stay that way.

I think this is true. Working full remote for a non-full remote first, even if the company is really cool about it, has practical nigglings.

The setup won't be as ideal for a remote worker as it could be. The dev environments will assume you are in the office physically, and not be quite as good otherwise. You might need to remote desktop or VPN, so any internet downtime (or even just shit latency) and you are off work.

Also culturally ... it will be an office based company still. Whether it be silly jokes about being the one working from home full time, for example, or needing to feel like you have to be there for your career. It can come through in subtle ways. Also things like regular synchronous meetings will prevail.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

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Post by falcolas »

01100011 wrote: post #15

China is falling into recession. Europe is falling into recession. A Federal Reserve governor(Kashkari) is now expressing doubt that inflation can be reined in without triggering a recession. Stonks have recovered from the initial drop, but that is a familiar pattern in many previous stock bubbles before the market really plummets. Think really hard about switching jobs now. If you do, have liquid reserves to fall ba…

I know this isn’t quite what you’re meaning, but it sounds like you’re saying “don’t quit so they can fire you instead.”

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

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Post by bluefirebrand »

My job doesn't have an office in town.

If they start to insist I move to one of the cities they have an office in, I will refuse and they can terminate me if they want.

I'm not doing it.

If they open an office in town, I'll consider going in once a month or so

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

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Post by hsn915 »

Probably, but not because of going back to the office.

If anything, being back in the office would be welcome for me. Sure, commute is a bit inefficient, but a lot of time is wasted when no one goes to the office ever.

Three times a week seems like a good balance to me.

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