Why workers just won’t stop quitting

I would say they should try listening to workers about what's bothering them but in general there's not enough trust for that to happen honestly. Lots of companies have tried using anonymous surveys but very few trust that they're actually anonymous. They've tried using "independent third parties" but since those companies are paid by the employer, there's very little trust that identities will be protected, which could lead to retaliation. The irony is that there does exist a type of entity that could get to the heart of what's causing so many workers to leave: the union. Of course, the union discussion involves many more issues than just being a place where workers can be honest about their issues with the employer, but if employers want to stop the bleeding of labor, they're going to have to figure out what's really the issue. Not sure how they accomplish that without trust.

Re: Why workers just won’t stop quitting

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Post by AzzieElbab » Sun, Aug 21, 2022, 9:27 PM UTC

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #5

I would say they should try listening to workers about what's bothering them but in general there's not enough trust for that to happen honestly. Lots of companies have tried using anonymous surveys but very few trust that they're actually anonymous. They've tried using "independent third parties" but since those companies are paid by the employer, there's very little trust that identities will be protected, which co…

Are you saying unionized workers aren’t leaving their jobs?

Re: Why workers just won’t stop quitting

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Post by TheJoeMan » Sun, Aug 21, 2022, 11:35 PM UTC

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #5

I would say they should try listening to workers about what's bothering them but in general there's not enough trust for that to happen honestly. Lots of companies have tried using anonymous surveys but very few trust that they're actually anonymous. They've tried using "independent third parties" but since those companies are paid by the employer, there's very little trust that identities will be protected, which co…

I agree these articles loosely mentioning “the pandemic” seems more like hand-wavey excuses from top management. I think many blue collar workers I know doing day in day out had a jolt that made them realize they were over-prioritizing their company that didn’t prioritize them.

Re: Why workers just won’t stop quitting

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Post by s1k3 » Sun, Aug 21, 2022, 11:40 PM UTC

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #5

I would say they should try listening to workers about what's bothering them but in general there's not enough trust for that to happen honestly. Lots of companies have tried using anonymous surveys but very few trust that they're actually anonymous. They've tried using "independent third parties" but since those companies are paid by the employer, there's very little trust that identities will be protected, which co…

Unions are not the salve for this.

The great resignation is in effect an existential crisis for the working person. People are questioning their life values and gut checking their work prospects against it and making a change when necessary. The pandemic was a watershed moment for everyone to kind of wake up and say, “is this right for me?”

Re: Why workers just won’t stop quitting

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Post by throwawaysleep » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 12:01 AM UTC

s1k3 wrote: post #8

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #5

I would say they should try listening to workers about what's bothering them but in general there's not enough trust for that to happen honestly. Lots of companies have tried using anonymous surveys but very few trust that they're actually anonymous. They've tried using "independent third parties" but since those companies are paid by the employer, there's very little trust that identities will be protected, which co…

Unions are not the salve for this. The great resignation is in effect an existential crisis for the working person. People are questioning their life values and gut checking their work prospects against it and making a change when necessary. The pandemic was a watershed moment for everyone to kind of wake up and say, “is this right for me?”

Is it actually a crisis of values?

I rarely see talk of a crisis of values on any of these forums.

Every time I see a forum discussion, it is about pay and work from home. We didn’t all move to the public service to make social services work great. We didn’t resign big tech by the thousands to allow solar startups to be slammed with applicants.

We just all shuffled our current jobs because those who shuffled got stuff those who didn’t shuffle were refused.

Re: Why workers just won’t stop quitting

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Post by labrador » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 12:02 AM UTC

I think people are overthinking the problem when it is quite simple: Housing prices have put owning your own home out of reach for the vast majority of young people.

I worked hard to pay my mortgage, feeling happy that I was on my way to owning a house. With a house, I started a family and life was good. I didn't mind putting up with corporate nonsense.

Without a house, I most certainly would not done this. I probably would have kicked around doing odd jobs to save for going backpacking in Thailand. Why the hell would I want to be part of a system that doesn't reward me? There's no reason to buy in (or sell out)