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I'll just say that it's still better than the German system. Same ridiculous waiting times for a 50/50 chance to just get a paracetamol prescription. Private is expensive as hell, nonexistent or not usable. Mental healthcare? Pay us, fuck you. Medication newer than 30 years? Stop huffing that ibuprofen, Bruder. But it's defended to death by the German Internet Chairforce, so it's got that going for it.
Wait a sec — paracetamol requires a prescription in Germany? Even here in the U.S. it's over the counter everywhere.
Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg
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#332Earlier quoted context omitted.
The UK media is an example of an oligarchy successfully controlling the entire information landscape and consistently pushing for manufactured “problems of the week” while ignoring real disturbing trends in home ownership, poverty, health and inequality between London and the abandoned “regions”. The book “Fake law” was terrifying to me - it talks about a whole number of high profile judicial cases that were pretty m…
BBC? The Guardian? The Independent? I think you're picking and choosing narratives here, not accurately representing reality.
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#333Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is a theory that the mRNA sequences could have been reverse transcribed into the DNA of various organs, including liver cells. https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm is a in vitro (but not in vivo) demonstration of one element of this theory.
To add to this, there has been evidence that the spike proteins created by the mRNA sequences stay around in the body longer than expected. CDC has now implicitly admitted this. CDC snapshot July 22: https://web.archive.org/web/20220722141942/https://www.cdc.g... CDC snapshot July 23: https://web.archive.org/web/20220723161304/https://www.cdc.g... Notice the change to the "Facts About mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines" section.
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#334Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because if the possibility turned out to be true, it would be extremely damaging at a social and political level. Not just on institutions, but on the psyche of people in general. I think everyone understands this at least on a subconscious level. There must not be any truth to it, because if there was, it would do too much damage. So why would I want people to discuss something that could potentially have that kind…
This is teetering on the edge of conspiracy theory. People are and have been researching this possibility and so far haven't found anything big worth reporting. Just because there is no big news doesn't mean people are hiding it.
"The Lancet letter (also referred to as Calisher et al. 2020) was a statement made in support of scientists and medical professionals in China fighting the outbreak of COVID-19, and condemning theories suggesting that the virus does not have a natural origin, which it referred to as "conspiracy theories".[1][2] The letter was published in The Lancet on February 19, 2020, and signed by 27 prominent scientists, gaining a further 20,000 signatures in a Change.org petition.[3][4] The letter generated significant controversy over the alleged conflicts of interest of its authors, and the chilling effect it had on scientists proposing that the COVID-19 lab leak theory be investigated."
Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg
#335Earlier quoted context omitted.
The UK has been spending less on healthcare as a percentage of GDP than comparable European countries, Germany and France. I agree more money doesn't solve the issue, especially as so much money was wasted on Covid testing and private beds that were never used. However in my lifetime the difference in healthcare spending between New Labour and Conservative has been noticeable. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.…
I'm not convinced that the UK has been all that comparable to Germany and France for years. GDP is of course an imperfect measure of the real size and capacity of the economy - Ireland has about twice the GDP per capita of all of those countries, but there's not really any way for their government to capture that economic activity as funding for stuff - and certain other metrics are not so great. For example, the ave…
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#336Earlier quoted context omitted.
Price inelastic healthcare is a private equity dream. The project to leave NHS funding unreformed in order to buy acquiescence to its sell off, all the whilst leaving people to rot, is to my eyes scandalous. But somehow unremarked in the twilight zone that the UK has become.
> is to my eyes scandalous. But somehow unremarked There's a lot of remarking going on - Private Eye, for example, have been banging the "NHS privatisation" drum for a couple of decades at least. The Guardian, too, mention it not infrequently.
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#337Earlier quoted context omitted.
So they spend slightly more than double what they did in 1955, when the cost of providing healthcare has gone up nearly 4x due to the Beaumol effect. That doesn't seem good? You'd expect the service to gradually get worse in that case, wouldn't you? https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2019/05/wh...
"worse" in what sense? Outcomes of serious diseases are probably better in 1955, because science hasn't stood still.
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#338Nurses and other healthcare professionals have been quitting and are not planning to come back because there is no chance of increased pay (which only drives up the pressure to those still working in healthcare).
Hospitals are working through their backlogs. Care that could be postponed has been postponed for two years and now with fewer healthcare professionals and medical issues left untreated for a while (even people starting on chemo got told to wait at some point) the recovery process is slow. This, of course, isn't great for the relatively large elderly population as they're very reliant on lots of healthcare.
I don't know what the state of the NHS is these days, but I've heard distressing signals from all over the UK about people being unable to get a GP appointment in time and the entire hospital system being overworked. I don't know if it's politicians trying to cut more healthcare costs, the pandemic, Brexit, or everything at once, but the NHS doesn't seem to be doing well.
Over here, we have all but stopped testing for COVID. It's seemingly presumed to be endemic by the government, much like other governments seem to do. In every sector sick leave has also been on the rise, as the government told us to expect; the consensus seems to be that the current variants of COVID aren't that much of a risk and we should just go back to normal and let the disease run its course. With reports of long COVID symptoms on the rise [0] I very much doubt that, but the government doesn't seem to care about sick people, so I'm not surprised.
Excess mortality in the Netherlands has been high ever since the start of the pandemic [1]. Every time the virus spreads, excess mortality rises. The covid death rate [2] is claimed to be extremely low but at the same time COVID testing has also pretty much stopped, whereas previously anyone dying with COVID was also written up to have died with COVID. Based on the mortality graphs I'd say we've passed another COVID peak but nobody (I know, at least) takes an official tests so the statistics are very much flawed; wastewater analysis [3] seems to suggest a "hidden" endemic that coincides with the rise in excess mortality, though.
My personal conclusion: we're in (or have just passed) yet another mass COVID spread event but everyone has grown tired of taking any anti-COVID measures, so they stopped caring. I dread to think what the winter is going to look like if the summer death toll is this high. The UK's COVID numbers seem to agree with a similar peak in positive tests but I don't know how well the reporting is done over the pond.
There is also another factor at play: the extreme heat due to climate change we're facing in Europe. In (previously) unusually warm summers or cold winters, old and sick people have always had a tendency to die more often. The heat of the past few weeks definitely isn't the only cause, but I doubt it's not a factor this year with record heat reported all across England.
As an aside: the amount of people here immediately jumping to the conclusion that vaccines are the cause is... quite depressing. We're still very much in a pandemic but everyone just seems to _want_ to blame vaccines while we, as a society, try our best to stuff our fingers into our ears and pretend we can't hear anything. Do whatever you want to feel better, blame the vaccine, blame Bill Gates, blame the lizard people running the Illuminati, but it won't solve the problem.
[0]: https://www.rivm.nl/en/news/nearly-twice-as-many-cases-invol...
[1]: https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2022/31/excess-mortality-in-al...
[2]: https://coronadashboard.government.nl/landelijk/sterfte
[3]: https://coronadashboard.government.nl/landelijk/rioolwater
Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg
#339Unfortunately not mentioned in the article, how do these numbers compare to other countries?
I'd say pretty similar overall, though the UK had a massive peak and then a sudden deficit in excess mortality where other countries didn't. France and Ireland haven't reported an uptick in excess mortality but their data hasn't been included from right around the most recent sudden rise.
The pattern seems to be that there's an increase in excess mortality, with peaks following drops a few months later coinciding with COVID spread. Sadly, this website doesn't show any data prior to January of 2020, but excess mortality rates were down right up to the spread of COVID.
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#340Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll just say that it's still better than the German system. Same ridiculous waiting times for a 50/50 chance to just get a paracetamol prescription. Private is expensive as hell, nonexistent or not usable. Mental healthcare? Pay us, fuck you. Medication newer than 30 years? Stop huffing that ibuprofen, Bruder. But it's defended to death by the German Internet Chairforce, so it's got that going for it.
Wait a sec — paracetamol requires a prescription in Germany? Even here in the U.S. it's over the counter everywhere.