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Re: Got a rejection for mentioning Apple pre-release software, but I am not

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Post by threeseed »

saagarjha wrote: post #46
threeseed wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You also need to have a little understanding. It's never going to be a perfect process when you have people who aren't technical making sometimes subjective decisions. The trick is to plan well. Assume delays and the need for re-reviews and don't tie anything to when you think it might be approved.

> Assume delays and the need for re-reviews and don't tie anything to when you think it might be approved. This also, you know, sucks majorly when planning anything. If Apple had to deal with this kind of review when releasing iPhone they’d put a billion dollars into lobbying it away.

They do have to deal with this kind of reviews.

There are numerous government and cellular company approvals they need in order to launch a phone.

Re: Got a rejection for mentioning Apple pre-release software, but I am not

#52

Post by lapcat »

threeseed wrote: post #42
tambourine_man wrote: post #11

The little experience I had with AppStore approval is that it’s mostly a game of persistence. They probably see some benefit from a little friction to prevent spam or perhaps it’s just pure stupid bureaucracy. I was rejected for asking access to the camera. The App applied filters to images taken. I stated as much in XCode, something along: this app needs access to the camera in order to apply its effects. Rejected f…

You also need to have a little understanding. It's never going to be a perfect process when you have people who aren't technical making sometimes subjective decisions. The trick is to plan well. Assume delays and the need for re-reviews and don't tie anything to when you think it might be approved.

> The trick is to plan well.

No, the trick is to run to the press and raise a big fuss, bypassing app review to get to Apple execs who want to quickly shut down bad PR.

Re: Got a rejection for mentioning Apple pre-release software, but I am not

#53

Post by threeseed »

grishka wrote: post #21
1over137 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is for Mac though, the App Store is not obligatory.

I do wonder what makes people voluntarily publish their apps there. It's not like they can't DIY Mac app distribution.

Users like it.

For example I almost never use apps outside of the App Store and brew.

It's great to be able have updates and purchases managed in one place and if I ever get a new computer I can simply login to my account and re-download everything in seconds.

Re: Got a rejection for mentioning Apple pre-release software, but I am not

#54

Post by ignormies »

kylec wrote: post #48
blendergeek wrote: post #5

Update from original tweeter: > Long story short: Two features (one from iOS 12, one from iOS 16), and one name: Continuity Camera. https://twitter.com/eternalstorms/status/1560304401922854920...

So he did mention features of pre-release software

No he mentioned an iOS 12 feature which has the exact same name (Continuity Camera) as an upcoming iOS 16 feature.

His app uses the iOS 12 feature

Re: Got a rejection for mentioning Apple pre-release software, but I am not

#55

Post by saagarjha »

threeseed wrote: post #51
saagarjha wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Assume delays and the need for re-reviews and don't tie anything to when you think it might be approved. This also, you know, sucks majorly when planning anything. If Apple had to deal with this kind of review when releasing iPhone they’d put a billion dollars into lobbying it away.

They do have to deal with this kind of reviews. There are numerous government and cellular company approvals they need in order to launch a phone.

I am aware. You can submit prototype devices to those companies. There are clear standards to meet and established ways to escalate or appeal reviews when necessary. You know, like a functional process.

Re: Got a rejection for mentioning Apple pre-release software, but I am not

#56

Post by threeseed »

saagarjha wrote: post #55
threeseed wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do have to deal with this kind of reviews. There are numerous government and cellular company approvals they need in order to launch a phone.

I am aware. You can submit prototype devices to those companies. There are clear standards to meet and established ways to escalate or appeal reviews when necessary. You know, like a functional process.

There are established way to escalate and appeal reviews with the App Store.

And it's hilarious that you think complying with government regulations is a clear and functional process.

Re: Got a rejection for mentioning Apple pre-release software, but I am not

#57

Post by [deleted] »

threeseed wrote: post #53
grishka wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do wonder what makes people voluntarily publish their apps there. It's not like they can't DIY Mac app distribution.

Users like it. For example I almost never use apps outside of the App Store and brew. It's great to be able have updates and purchases managed in one place and if I ever get a new computer I can simply login to my account and re-download everything in seconds.

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Re: Got a rejection for mentioning Apple pre-release software, but I am not

#58

Post by gnicholas »

googlryas wrote: post #41
gnicholas wrote: post #2

> I literally haven’t changed the text in my marketing description in many months. After 5 years in the App Store, and having my app featured in the Accessibility section, we were flagged for a characteristic that had remained unchanged since launch. In almost every case, our rejections were not related to newly-added features.

When this happens, I assume a shady competitor kept flagging your product until they got it taken off the app store.

This was for unrelated feature upgrades. I suppose it’s possible people had flagged us and the flags weren’t reviewed until we submitted an update though.

Re: Got a rejection for mentioning Apple pre-release software, but I am not

#59

Post by dinkledunk »

threeseed wrote: post #50
rzwitserloot wrote: post #19

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No, it's a distopian fucking horrorshow. You're right, of course. Humans are involved, it's not consistent, you're witnessing a state machine where 'opinion and carefulness of the human(s) that are part of this process' is a significant chunk of how it works. But, __the escalation features__ are clichéd Catch-22-esque lunacy, and the actual information you receive in order to ascertain which part of the big state mac…

If Apple makes you this unhinged then don't buy their products and avoid reading anything about them. Because these posts have been here for over a decade and will be here for decades to come. Because the App Store is not about developers. It's about users. And being a human-curated process there will often be mistakes and people on Twitter complaining. But users really like curation and so the status quo is very muc…

Me not buying their products doesn't stop my users from doing so, or my employer from demanding we support them. Also you've clearly never been on the submitting side of the app store, this "careful curation" often misses blatant violations and instead nags for weeks on minor or non-existent issues while refusing to elaborate.

Re: Got a rejection for mentioning Apple pre-release software, but I am not

#60

Post by behringer »

threeseed wrote: post #56
saagarjha wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am aware. You can submit prototype devices to those companies. There are clear standards to meet and established ways to escalate or appeal reviews when necessary. You know, like a functional process.

There are established way to escalate and appeal reviews with the App Store. And it's hilarious that you think complying with government regulations is a clear and functional process.

At least you can sue the government. Good luck getting anything but arbitration with apples lawyers when dealing with apple.
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