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Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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Are there still major pandemic restrictions in Britain? Lots of quotes in this piece seem to imply there’s ongoing issues here but everything I see in Europe or the US from abroad seems to heavily imply that people are “back to normal” (at least in terms of movement). The idea here (treatment delays lead to excess deaths) seems ok, but is it really the restrictions? Isn’t it more that hospitals are still extremely fu…

There are no longer any pandemic restrictions in Britain. But there is still a huge backlog for health treatment, which was largely caused by access to non-urgent healthcare being partially shutdown over the pandemic.

Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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Covid is one aspect of this. Another is the massive. underfunding of the NHS over the last decade. This has become much more evident post-covid thanks to the backlogs. - Getting a GP to see you in person is now quite difficult (they want to do everything via phone). - Seeing your GP (depending on your area) can involve a 2-3 week wait and waiting in an hours long phone queue. - When you are referred to hospital for t…

The Tory government are doing it on purpose to get the people to want to move to private healthcare. Amazingly it isn’t working, even tho they have basically destroyed the NHS. The silent resilience of British people has backfired on them. Truth is that many old Brits would literally rather die than kick up a fuss

Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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Are there still major pandemic restrictions in Britain? Lots of quotes in this piece seem to imply there’s ongoing issues here but everything I see in Europe or the US from abroad seems to heavily imply that people are “back to normal” (at least in terms of movement). The idea here (treatment delays lead to excess deaths) seems ok, but is it really the restrictions? Isn’t it more that hospitals are still extremely fu…

All restrictions ended in April I think. And prior to that the last “lockdown” was first half of 2021 when we were hit with Delta mid-vaccination campaign.

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Are there still major pandemic restrictions in Britain? Lots of quotes in this piece seem to imply there’s ongoing issues here but everything I see in Europe or the US from abroad seems to heavily imply that people are “back to normal” (at least in terms of movement). The idea here (treatment delays lead to excess deaths) seems ok, but is it really the restrictions? Isn’t it more that hospitals are still extremely fu…

> Are there still major pandemic restrictions in Britain?

No.

My impression is that in the UK (just as in other countries to a degree) the healthcare system hasn't really gotten out of the overload-state ever since the COVID waves. So while delays due to lockdowns certainly happened, it's also an ongoing crisis independent from that. (and if I'm being cynical, advocating for fixing those issues doesn't fit various pundits' agendas because that would mean spending more resources on the healthcare system, so it gets ignored - certainly the silence about this here in Germany has been interesting)

Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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Covid is one aspect of this. Another is the massive. underfunding of the NHS over the last decade. This has become much more evident post-covid thanks to the backlogs. - Getting a GP to see you in person is now quite difficult (they want to do everything via phone). - Seeing your GP (depending on your area) can involve a 2-3 week wait and waiting in an hours long phone queue. - When you are referred to hospital for t…

Price inelastic healthcare is a private equity dream. The project to leave NHS funding unreformed in order to buy acquiescence to its sell off, all the whilst leaving people to rot, is to my eyes scandalous. But somehow unremarked in the twilight zone that the UK has become.

Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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Much like the real vaccine safety data, this data will be ever so slow and convoluted to torture out.

The excuses already piling up to place the blame largely on individuals for their "consumption/sedentary behavior" etc.

At least it is unavoidable to make the connection between failed public policy and these deaths

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