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Let's Try Gnome Boxes

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Re: Let's Try Gnome Boxes

#21
I'd love to try this but I'm hesitant for fear that the developers decide to remove some feature that's critical to how I use their software down the line. Gnome is infamous for their drive-by function-follows-form design philosophy.

Their software appears to be designed elusively for the perfect ideal user.

Re: Let's Try Gnome Boxes

#22
Excellent! So good to see people building easy to use UIs that get you started with stuff like this. A lot of time you just want to get something simple done and this kind of UI is perfect for that.

Re: Let's Try Gnome Boxes

#23

Boxes seems to be trying to target a non-existent market - dumbed-down virtualization. At least in my experience, when I'm running VM's, I typically want a sane set of defaults backed up by the ability to customize to the maximum degree in order to replicate the target environment. Virt-manager does this exceptionally well, as the author correctly notes. Virt-manager also allows you to connect to remote libvirt hosts…

I'd argue virt-manager's UX is a little clunky, but that doesn't justify going that far.

Clunky? More like spartan. I can't even set basic things such as port forwarding.

Re: Let's Try Gnome Boxes

#24

Boxes seems to be trying to target a non-existent market - dumbed-down virtualization. At least in my experience, when I'm running VM's, I typically want a sane set of defaults backed up by the ability to customize to the maximum degree in order to replicate the target environment. Virt-manager does this exceptionally well, as the author correctly notes. Virt-manager also allows you to connect to remote libvirt hosts…

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-pro... same market that microsoft has been targeting since half way through windows 10

Windows Sandbox is an ephemeral VM with zero configuration that starts up to a blank Windows desktop in about 20 seconds on my machine. Boxes is just a simple VM configurator, its closest equivalent would be VirtualBox.

Re: Let's Try Gnome Boxes

#27
I use Boxes on my work laptop, which runs RHEL 8; my employer has a preset for it that generates a Windows 10 Enterprise VM already fully configured in much the same way as a corporate-issued Windows laptop would be. I don't use it for much, but it does work pretty dang seamlessly for my purposes.

On my own machines I historically used VirtualBox, but I've lately been (re-)trying VMM on openSUSE (which is dead simple to setup from YaST, which has a button for "Install Hypervisor and Tools"; I simply checked the boxes for "KVM server" and "KVM tools" and it automatically installed everything I needed). So far I've been pretty impressed. I say "(re-)trying" because I've actually used that exact setup before for an on-prem server at a past employer, but running some servers in VMs is a fair bit different from, say, trying to put a Haiku or TempleOS desktop through its paces :)

Re: Let's Try Gnome Boxes

#28
post #16

Boxes seems to be trying to target a non-existent market - dumbed-down virtualization. At least in my experience, when I'm running VM's, I typically want a sane set of defaults backed up by the ability to customize to the maximum degree in order to replicate the target environment. Virt-manager does this exceptionally well, as the author correctly notes. Virt-manager also allows you to connect to remote libvirt hosts…

It kinda looks like Parallels. I can see using it to trial funky operating systems? Before Steam, I'd have said it could be useful for playing windows games on Linux, but these days everything I want to play just seems to work.

Microsoft flight simulator 98 only works on xp

Re: Let's Try Gnome Boxes

#29
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It kinda looks like Parallels. I can see using it to trial funky operating systems? Before Steam, I'd have said it could be useful for playing windows games on Linux, but these days everything I want to play just seems to work.

Microsoft flight simulator 98 only works on xp

... And Windows 98 I'd hope.

Re: Let's Try Gnome Boxes

#30
post #26

Modern computing increasingly relies on the GPU, and it is disappointing to see that virtualization tools are lacking in this area.

You could also put it the other way around: Modern computing increasingly relies on virtualization and it is disappointing to see that GUI tools increasingly require GPU acceleration making them inaccessible inside virtualized environments.
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