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#61
> As we approach The Merge of Ethereum Mainnet, you should be on high alert for scams trying to take advantage of users during this transition. Do not send your ETH anywhere in an attempt to "upgrade to ETH2." There is no "ETH2" token, and there is nothing more you need to do for your funds to remain safe.

Yeah... this is going to be a shitshow. Who wants to set the over/under on $millions that get stolen? Which exchange or fund will lose a vast chunk of its holdings?

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#62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does the army and law enforcement not use energy? Do banks not have server farms?

Okay, back up a little. Crypto miners mine crypto in order to become rich. With national currencies, this is impossible. Citizens cannot create their own currency, and that's a good thing. If money could be easily forged, it would either be worthless, or a speculative instrument, like every crypto in existence. National governments are the source and the only legal creators of money. Crypto mining also makes the bloc…

> National governments are the source and the only legal creators of money.

And those closest to the money printer benefit. And hint, the average joe is furthest from the printer. The future of the average joe is stolen via currency debasement and inflation, but those closest to the printer get richer.

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#63

Ethereum in its current state is using proof-of-work (PoW) to ensure consensus amongst the thousands of nodes in the network. While PoW is reliable and secure, it is also extremely energy intensive. To produce each block on the network participants are required to use powerful and energy-hungry GPUs to solve a complex mathematical problem. Alternatively, proof-of-stake (PoS) guarantees the security of the network in…

I am sure staking pools will be available to people with less than 32 ETH

Some of the better known ones are Lido and RocketPool.

Re: The Merge

#64
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I don't get proof of stake. What's stopping anyone from presenting a new chain made up of thousands of fake transactions? And why wouldn't such chain be accepted by the network? Is it just "checkpoints" hardcoded in the software that don't allow this?

It's bullshit: https://yanmaani.github.io/proof-of-stake-is-a-scam-and-the-...

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#67

Given that the merge reduces the electricity cost for new Ethereum by ~1000x, won't the price just tank in a race to the bottom?

The supply of ETH is only related to electricity when it's possible to mine it with electricity. Otherwise, what keeps the price of crypto up is people competing to get currency for uses like remittance. Since sending money to another country using a cryptocurrency ties up an amount of currency for a period of time, users have to compete for the available tokens in order to exchange with them.

That's my point though, after the merge the proof of stake nodes are earning a lot of ETH for a fraction of the previous cost, the only way price should stay stable is if everyone with a stake agrees not to undercut each other.

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#68

> The Merge will reduce Ethereum's energy consumption by ~99.95%. That's something Bitcoin needs ... or even better get rid of it altogether. https://ccaf.io/cbeci/index https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption/

That's something Bitcoin needs ... or even better get rid of it altogether. As the price keeps falling, presumably so will energy consumption. The energy consumption problem fixes itself as the bubble bursts and people lose interest and mining becomes unprofitable, without the need for regulation.

The hardware to perform PoW already exists. All someone needs to do for a 51% attack is buy up the old mining hardware that is being sold for so cheap.

Every "bust" period for BTC comes with the risk of a 51% attack / centralization.

If the difficulty falls by 90% because 90% of miners were shut off, you only need to buy 5.6% of those thrown-away miners to cause a 51% attack on BTC.

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> The Merge will reduce Ethereum's energy consumption by ~99.95%. That's something Bitcoin needs ... or even better get rid of it altogether. https://ccaf.io/cbeci/index https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption/

Bitcoin is never going to change from PoW... That's the point of the system, Bitcoin is unchangable, unlike Ethereum. But you are free to create your own PoS cryptocurrency. If some PoS system offers the same security features as Bitcoin, people will just switch from Bitcoin to that.

Security is not the main reason for Bitcoin's success within the cryptocurrency scene, it's that it's the first and most recognizable name. But because its creator is AWOL it's incredibly difficult to push for any fundamental change to the protocol without creating huge divisions and probably a very controversial fork (of which there already have been a few). Unless Satoshi themselves decides to make a comeback, I don't think it'll ever happen.

People are not using Bitcoin because it's the most advanced or secure cryptocurrency, they use bitcoin because it was the first and will probably be the last to go whenever that whole flaming garbage bag of a "technology" hits the bin.

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#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am sure staking pools will be available to people with less than 32 ETH

They already are. The Merge refers to the fact that the PoS chain has been running parallel to the main chain for one year now. It has been thoroughly tested live and so now will be merged back into the main chain like a branch of a git repo.

How can two chains be merged if one is a fork of the other without having instances of double spending? With source code in Git you can manually pick which version of each line you want in the merged result, but here it's not possible to do that if services or merch have been exchanged with coins. Except if you're fine with having to deal forever with coins and merged-from-the-fork coins on the eth blockchain?
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