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I'm 30. The Sexual Revolution Shackled My Generation

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Re: I'm 30. The Sexual Revolution Shackled My Generation

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I joked to a younger friend who goes on about boomers, that boomers ruined the economy and millennials ruined sex. He agreed. Romanticism died in the mid-2010s. Being the knight who ventures into the world for the ideal love no longer works. The "bolt of lightning" style love is not enough to overcome economic and social pressures, people want more security in arranged and strategic marriages. People who commit to a…

We will probably just get comfort androids for men at this rate and then we're really in trouble.

Re: I'm 30. The Sexual Revolution Shackled My Generation

#34

The issues in this article are no excuse to back peddle or react with fear, if anything I see them as reasons to continue forward, keep the good, address the bad and keep moving. This read like one long rant from my mother in law that starts with "I'm not racists, but Mexicans..." Except it's June Cleaver saying "I'm a feminist, but she was asking for it in that dress"

Victim or not, moving into a secure stance is good. Avoiding personal security for your daughter simply because you may sound like a victim-blamer to your son-in-law, isn't good policy.

A secure stance is good, this article is selling hysteric fear.

Re: I'm 30. The Sexual Revolution Shackled My Generation

#36

Boring article. OP is correct that the way young folks relate to each other socially is terrible these days, but trying to roll back the "sexual revolution" would do zilch to improve this. These things are not solely defined by sex, nor should they be.

Rolling back is never an option. We can learn from past mistakes, though. For example, as far as I can tell, men are more frustrated with dating apps, but they're not that happy either. Moreover, we're discussing a subject that is extremely subjective, so we might not even be able to reach a reasonable conclusion.

I don't have a lot of experience on this subject tbh, but apps weren't frustrating to me, a bit too game-ish imho but otherwise fine. The following relationship, however, felt a bit forced each time and i think overall was negative on my happiness.

Re: I'm 30. The Sexual Revolution Shackled My Generation

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This seems like such an inherently christian viewpoint. It starts by stating as an axiom that the following are inherently bad: >porn >hook-up culture >fewer marriages >fewer babies These seem neutral to positive to me as someone not mired in christian morality.

Some of those seem positive to some christians. Some lutherans are advocating for porn as long as it's ethically sourced. Christian morality is a very broad tent to generalize about. Though I am not one of those people. Porn is obviously missing the mark, literally, morally and ethically. It's disturbing what % of the population makes it's living off prostitution, digital or not.

The only issue i have with porn production is the lack of international regulations. And if the '50% of all internet is porn' myth isn't a myth, maybe people consume too much of something i find inferior (not strictly however) to erotica.

I think people should couple watch erotica movies or go to erotica conventions, i went early in my life when i was close too a group of LGBTQ+ people and it is probably the most foundational experience of my sexual life.

Re: I'm 30. The Sexual Revolution Shackled My Generation

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surprisingly, it isn’t. Accounting for societal factors like the sexual evolution and the cost of living, researchers have found that the culprit is something else. Researchers found that starting in the 1950s, male fertility has been on a consecutive year after year decline in countries where enough industrialization has taken place. So far proposed culprits range from PFAS or endocrine disrupters like BPA, but ther…

I don't know about others, but in my circles very few couples don't have kids because they can't. Most of the time the decision not to have (another) baby is related to external factors such as high and rising costs of doing so.

According to the research even if the economic factors weren’t a roadblock, people still will have trouble having two children. There are reports about couples in their late 20s needing IVF

Re: I'm 30. The Sexual Revolution Shackled My Generation

#39

"All girls and women [...] should avoid being alone with men they don’t know" I guess the default setting for my gender is 'predator'..

That's a straw man. Speaking as a Muslim, Islam controls mixing between genders of people that are non-Mahrams (i.e. people who are able to get married to each other). The same applies to Judaism and Christianity. Interactions between the genders is controlled and under specific circumstances, based on necessity, and no such thing as "casual friendship" exists between the genders.

The reason of course, is that the natural desire of humans, as well as the influence of Satan, will cause things to end up badly, as we've seen time and time again. Wasn't there the "metoo" movement that we saw?

I have not seen any Muslim scholar declare men as defacto "predators".

Re: I'm 30. The Sexual Revolution Shackled My Generation

#40

Blame the apps. None of this would be possible if it weren't for tinder and friends making hook up culture a thing. I would bet dollars to donuts that the folks thriving in this environment would not have the confidence to do the same thing in person.

Those kinds of apps appearing are due to circumstances that set the wheels in motion a long time before.

When religions like Islam, Judaism, and Christianity heavily control mixing between the genders, it's for a reason. Once the boundaries broke down and the so called "sexual revolution" took hold, it was only a matter of time.

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