I don't see Carmack bringing anything new to the table.
Why not?
John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round
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#552Personally I hope this fails because of the disaster AGI would be for low/entry level jobs. The last thing the world needs is to give technocrats such power. I know it’s an interesting problem to solve but think of who will own that tech in the end… I hope AGI is never figured out in my lifetime.
I never understand this line of thinking. If a job becomes unnecessary, that’s a gain for humanity, not a loss.
Imagine what has happened to american manufacturing workers since the 80s but happening to everyone on the planet. This is by no means a "gain".
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The common current example? A text prompt of "A horse riding an astronaut" without prompt engineering. Though I don't think the successful production of this image will demonstrate intelligence/causal understanding either (but it is a good counter example). Causal understanding is going to be a bit difficult to prove tbh.
Counter-argument: DALL-E is smart enough to understand that an astronaut riding a horse makes more sense than a horse riding an astronaut, and therefore assumes that you meant "a horse-riding astronaut" unless you go out of your way to specify that you definitely do, in fact, want to see a horse riding an astronaut.
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I never understand this line of thinking. If a job becomes unnecessary, that’s a gain for humanity, not a loss.
>that’s a gain for humanity Imagine what has happened to american manufacturing workers since the 80s but happening to everyone on the planet. This is by no means a "gain".
Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round
#555I think its a silly idea that consciousness can be produced by computation.
As such, we also don't know if consciousness is required for an AI that can perform most useful tasks at human level.
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#556It will decide our fate in a microsecond: extermination.
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I doubt Carmack is motivated that much by money. He has way more than he'll ever spend.
His reply to this tweet is that he didn't want to spend $20million of his own money on this venture. When you have the option to throw 20m on projects, you can spend it reasonably quickly.
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Artificial General Intelligence != sentient being
What, in your view, is the difference?
It does not need to be self aware. Can still be considered a machine.
People think if we get to AGI, maybe we'll get to self awareness. But we won't know that until it happens. We don't fully understand how sentience works.
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>that’s a gain for humanity Imagine what has happened to american manufacturing workers since the 80s but happening to everyone on the planet. This is by no means a "gain".
And don't forget all those awful looms stealing workers jobs! They must all be destroyed for us to prosper
Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round
#560AGI will be more dangerous that nuclear weapons. People are not allowed to start a nuclear weapon company. At all. Why are people allowed to casually start an AGI company?
> AGI will be more dangerous that nuclear weapons. This is highly debatable and frankly no one on the planet is qualified to know this for sure. It's just as likely it won't be dangerous.