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App Store doesn't accept “too simple” apps

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Re: App Store doesn't accept “too simple” apps

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Post by vivegi »

The app store is an abomination. Don't even get me started on the app store ensures security and privacy of users. If that is the case, they would not be having apps that use in-app browsers that are a security and privacy sinkhole. (TikTok and Instagram to name two of the top apps using in-app browsers)

It is just a rent-seeking racket and enough people are drinking the koolaid keeping this flywheel moving. All 'app store' platforms by bigtech players AAPL, MSFT and GOOG are guilty of arbitrary high-handedness and developer apathy.

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Post by shmde »

haunter wrote: post #67
fevangelou wrote: post #53

Out of curiosity, since iOS seems to have a ~20% share in Romania, why not launch on Android first (which makes business sense at ~80% market share)? And if Apple keeps dicking around, at least make it easy for the mobile site to be installed as a web app to iOS homescreens. @Apple Seriously?

Android users are significantly less likely to pay for an app because by default you can install any apk file on Android. Basically piracy is rampant. On iOS you have to go through the jailbreaking process first to do the same.

> Android users are significantly less likely to pay for an app.

True.

> because by default you can install any apk file on Android.

False, its because majority android apps are freemiums with shitload amount of ads, that was Google's way of introducing the app store to the masses and particularly the reason why android even survived. People try to make the general population the villain that they don't like to pay,but Google's whole business model revolved around showing ads on apps also I have rarely found irl people in my college/work life who have actually tried installing apks outside store.

In short, I hope you can put the blame on Google for making people addicted to the ad infested model.

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Post by cercatrova »

wswope wrote: post #264
cercatrova wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with your first paragraph. However, I can't agree with your second. Most people who work there are just regular people, they are not "morally derelict" sociopaths. Indeed, the main reason they work there is money and prestige, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Blame the executives who make the decisions, not the workers who implement them.

Would you say the same about workers at Philip Morris or Shell? If the money and prestige is ill-gotten, I’d say those workers are complicit.

I would say the same. Just because some minimum wage worker runs the cash register at a Shell gas station does not mean they're complicit. Even if they worked at corporate, I still wouldn't expect it. The one's who make the decisions are the ones who are complicit.

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Post by dinkledunk »

oneplane wrote: post #289
strongpigeon wrote: post #89

This sucks... I'm sorry you had to go through this. The App Store review process is just pretty bad. It's especially frustrating when you see downright shitty apps on the store. The "black-box" aspect of it makes it that much more kafkaesque too. When I first submitted my app on there, they rejected it and complained that I used HealthKit but didn't mention it in the app description. The thing is, I did. My app descr…

I wouldn't be too surprised if they simply hire armies of reviewers that simply work through a checklist with limited room for interpretation/personal evaluation. I a way, they could just publish their internal checklist to make this process better for everyone, but I suspect it might cause bad actors to find ways to comply with the rules and still deliver crap to the store; almost like the rules they currently use a…

I would be, considering how inconsistent the reviewers are.

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Post by [deleted] »

fzfaa wrote: post #31
akmarinov wrote: post #22

And that's why we should open up stores by law if necessary. Apple shouldn't be the one to tell me what kind of apps I can have on the device I've bought with my money.

You already knew what you were getting into when you bought it, and Apple is far from having a monopoly.

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Post by JimDabell »

Apocryphon wrote: post #161
trebbble wrote: post #154

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I find myself in the utterly bizarre position (to me, anyway) of defending a megacorp against government interference because government has failed to reign in the bad behavior of the entire rest of the software market . Granted the EU's headed the right direction, but they've still not gone far enough, and the US is way behind. I hope EU citizens get what they want, but am also hoping we don't see those effects blee…

The "if iOS is opened up, Meta will put Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp on their own app store and steal user data" doomsday scenario has always seemed a little half-baked to me. Regulators on both sides of the pond are scrutinizing tech companies for all sorts of issues now. I doubt the EU will just be asleep at the wheel if Meta sets up a massive data collection op on European citizens. User data and privacy is just as…

> The "if iOS is opened up, Meta will put Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp on their own app store and steal user data" doomsday scenario has always seemed a little half-baked to me.

Meta was literally already caught doing this by abusing enterprise certificates to bypass the App Store to spy on people, including children, until Apple stopped them.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/31/apple-fac...

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Post by Apocryphon »

JimDabell wrote: post #326
Apocryphon wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "if iOS is opened up, Meta will put Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp on their own app store and steal user data" doomsday scenario has always seemed a little half-baked to me. Regulators on both sides of the pond are scrutinizing tech companies for all sorts of issues now. I doubt the EU will just be asleep at the wheel if Meta sets up a massive data collection op on European citizens. User data and privacy is just as…

> The "if iOS is opened up, Meta will put Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp on their own app store and steal user data" doomsday scenario has always seemed a little half-baked to me. Meta was literally already caught doing this by abusing enterprise certificates to bypass the App Store to spy on people, including children, until Apple stopped them. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/31/apple-fac...

Yes, and presumably the authorities would not go easy on them next time, with the greater political pressure to rein them in. And if Meta was doing that on their own third party store where all attention can be focused on them, misbehavior would be even more visible because they would not be hiding it behind someone else’s platform.

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Post by personjerry »

I made a button that just plays the WRONG sound clip from Trump. Rejected for being too simple.

Meanwhile the same app already on the App Store features a dozen ads, popping up as soon as you open the app, before you click the button, after you click the button, and all around the button. I guess those are the features they're looking for.

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Post by Apocryphon »

ricardobeat wrote: post #256
Apocryphon wrote: post #217

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Or Uber, Lyft, Spotify, Netflix, food delivery sites, basically any website (according to the GP)

There is a pretty big difference in apps where you have an account and interact in real-time with service providers, notifications are a critical part of it, etc. Browsing a list of events is nothing like it

What if it uses GPS and sorts the list by proximity to events? Does that make use of the phone’s capabilities?

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Post by Apocryphon »

ace2358 wrote: post #267
perfectstorm wrote: post #263

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help me understand this better. you are afraid that someone may access your private content if Apple allows side loading of apps? How is it any different than what's on macOS today? you can run any apps (after clearing it in System preferences) on your laptop but suddenly it's a security risk on your phone?

Whether you believe it or not, most people have sensitive information on their phone and not their ‘computer’ (I guess a desktop thing, if they have one!). For most people, they couldn’t care what happens to their computer. Not everyone is the same, but it’s not an uncommon situation. So security for the phone is more important for some people than computer security.

What people are paying all of their bills and looking through all of their statements on a phone? Maybe on a tablet, that accords more screen space. People can do a lot of things on phones these days but I am unconvinced that it is the optimal form factor. There are plenty of websites for boring necessary sensitive financial/legal/government/academic work that either has no mobile website or has very badly made mobile sites thus necessitating access by computer.
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